Comentarios

Comentario de Sauron0

Muy buen trinket, tiene 30 yds de alcanze y hace un daño decente, además no se encuentra en el cooldown global por lo que lo puedes usar mientras usas otra habilidad.

Cuando falla, golpea al target pero tambien a ti.

Yo recomiendo usarlo mientras tu mismo estas protegido contra el daño magico, como con Divine Shield o Anti-magic Shell, ya que de esta manera si falla y te golpea, no te hara daño.

Comentario de cruzader

hasta donde se ese trinket no falla es seguro lo e utilizado siempre para twinkear y nunca me a fallado.

Comentarios

Comentario de 201281

Leave it to a gnome to make a tool for suicide. I wouldn't expect less from a race that blew up their own city.

Comentario de 50570

I hope this is going to be used by both Engi trees can use it looks fun.

Comentario de hiddendragon

I hope this will be a instant-cast

Comentario de NightmareMJ

the upgraded version of the gnomish death ray....far more powerful....to both you and your target...
And it seems as with the death ray it will not require engineering to keep.

Comentario de Herbert

Gnomes... The only race who are born with a natural death wish... Don't you just love it?

Comentario de Zaphiroth

Can you use it while divine shield is up ?

Comentario de Carighan

Can anyone test whether this scales in any way?
Since the trinket misses any other stats, it seems comparatively weak in damage unless it'd be scaling. Even for burst-purposes.

Comentario de faia

This entire device is made of metal....

damn they just genius

Comentario de Kramp

Somebody tried this item underwater ?

Comentario de 182830

Facts:

1 second cast
1.5 min cooldown
Rarely it hits both you and your enemy
I tried using it underwater, the bolt just hit creature as usual

No idea if it can crit.

Comentario de 242170

Can anyone test the effects on using it with spell reflect up?

Comentario de Windwalk

It can crit, and does so frequently for me (on my shaman, who has fairly high crit, and +5% to lightning crit, which might factor in).

It backfires frequently. I would estimate about a 10% backfire rate. Damages you with a lightning bolt from above in addition to the target.

Overall, it's the only decent addition to engineering. A 1 sec cast on a 1 sec GCD for a high amount of damage adds a decent amount of burst.

-The rocket enchant to gloves is lackluster because it's on the GCD.

-The haste enchant to gloves is fairly minor, but has some value.

-The rocket boots enchant is okay, but you miss out on the passive run speed from an enchant if you don't get a meta for it.

-The parachute cloak requires giving up a stat enchant (in that case, swap in the actual parachute cloak with half the cooldown).

Comentario de jason15ju

ive used this while using divine shield, so far no ill side effects...

in fact, the warrior i used it on seemed rather shocked when i crit him for 5652...lol

Comentario de 251067

Indeed this item can crit. So far I've seen mine crit over 5k, as jason15ju said. In case anyone wonders, it only hits one target, and can be used while you have global cooldowns as a little "boost". Nice little trinket, aint gonna unequip it for a long time. It makes leveling easier aswell, especially if your out of mana, and the mob is on low hp.

Comentario de saibot

Little Info About the DPS on this: Now, if my math are correct, this should give you a ~40-50 DPS increase if you pop it on every cooldown, assuming it's not affected by miss rate.

The math for this conclusion are:

(2610 + 3190) / 2 = 2900 average damage per use.
2900 / 59 = 49,15 average DPS, excluding the 1 second cast time from the cooldown, and assuming it doesn't backfire.
If we try to factor the backfire in, which taking for granted that is 10%, and assuming it doesn't do any damage at all while backfiring, which is the worst case scenario, you lose ~4 DPS from it.

Optional: If you're a retribution paladin (only factored this because I play one), you can raise the damage by 9% since you will most likely have 3 stacks of vengeance up -- and should have before using it:
2900 * 1.09 = 3161 average damage per use.
3161 / 59 = 53,57 average DPS.

If you want you can add to Vengeance, Avenging Wrath for burst damage:
2900 * 1.29 = 3741 average damage per use
3741 / 59 = 63,40 average DPS with Avenging Wrath and 3x Vengeance up.

If my math are not correct -- just using common sense here, or almost common :p -- feel free and please correct it!

P.S My math are definitely not correct since I just realised that I didn't factor the crit rate in.

Comentario de Serith

The lightning bolt from this can be reflected.

Comentario de Sauron0

The Anti-magic Shell also absorbs the dmg when it fails.

- When it fails, the spell hits you and your target.

Comentario de sadistlex

What is the range of this trinket?

Comentario de 209208

This trinket deals nature damage. Vengeance only affects Physical and Holy, unfortunately.

Comentario de 264670

I assume this scales with haste as the cast time on my cast bar reads .9 seconds on my mage who has a fair amount of haste.

Comentario de 264670

I'd love hear where it gets its crit chance if anyone has an idea.

Comentario de 180641

Ok, at lvl 80 this trinket is alright but consider using this trinket at 60?..........

lol ya, I know your thinking about it too.

Your able to learn Grand Master Engineering at lvl 60 which means your able to make this item, and since it doesn't require a level your able to use it, Also you can drop Eng if you wanted and still be able to use it.

Now, think how extremly powerful you'll be in 60 bracket. Consider that most players will have around 4k - 6k hp. 1 lucky crit from this and you can pretty much 1 shot a person every cooldown if it doesn't back fire.

Comentario de MoonLite

Can you equip 2 at the same time? It doesn't say "Unique" anywhere...
err... await nvm, they will probably share cooldown, rendering the 2nd one totally useless.
Can anyone confirm this yet?

Comentario de 72243

Doesn't seem to be affected by the mage frost talent Shatter

Comentario de 274469

Going to do a check to see if it will work with Cold Blood.

Comentario de 264670

It's physical school, so interrupts have no effect. However, attack pushback, mind numbing, and I would assume curse of tongues affect the cast time. This makes sense as it scales with spell spell.

I'm not sure where it gets its spell crit because I don't think it works with shatter. My crit is low right now though so I would have to spend some time testing it.

Comentario de 144572

It can also crit yourself, as show in this image:

http://e.imagehost.org/view/0491/asdasd

Comentario de Thefeared

A rogue's cloak of shadows will not stop the nature damage proc on the user.

Comentario de 298375

I signed up to wowhead just to tell you all about this trinket.

While it may not appear that great on paper in a raiding situation, the real power of this trinket is that using it, is not on the global cooldown.

I'll give you an example, me being a mage I have found alot of incredibly powerful combinations that show the power of this trinket.

As frost, of course the standard way to kill someone has always been to shatter them with frostbolt + icelance.

However, with this trinket.... the rotation can become Frost bolt + Icelance, then, as the ice lance is casted, one global cooldown must pass before you can cast again, however, you can IMMEDIATELY charge this trinket. Not only does it make your shatter that much more damaging, the lightning it shoots will instantly hit your target, and all 3 sources of damage will hit within miliseconds. And just for an example, personally a standard shatter is 5800 frost bolt crit, 3800 ice lance crit, then this guy usually hits for 3000, crits for 5000 (not that often however).

I have found tons of instances where I am on the global cooldown, wanting to put damage into a target but I have nothing. Other examples would be the global cool down right after I cast deep freeze, if you play as Arcane barrage/pyro you can do Arcane barrage > This trinket > PoM Pyro > Arcane barrage, and let me tell you, people have to check their combat logs after they get hit with that much damage.

To conclude I believe this trinket is amazing for mage pvp. The fact that it is not on the global cooldown makes all the difference in the world. It gives you the option to add more burst into your combinations, which is so much more than "add x amount of this stat, chance on hit to do something" that most other trinkets offer.

Comentario de Kuja

from ptr notes:

Gnomish Lightning Generator has had its cast time and cooldown reduced.

updated notes:

Gnomish Lightning Generator is now instant cast. (Down from 1 sec)

Comentario de Eillesthis

This will trigger Thunder Capacitor when it crits, and seems to crit based on your spell crit chance.

Comentario de 201933

Just had it crit my target but hit me for regular.

Comentario de Serai

in the upcomming patch the cast time will be removed
since its a trinket i doubt it will have a global cooldown (im not sure tough, it might be overpowerd in pvp), making it actually a nice dps trinket

Comentario de 305492

I must say, if It deals nature damage with it's backfire, then It might actually give hunters a good reason to use Aspect of the wild.

Comentario de ghenz

It's crit with my AW on around 5000K

Comentario de Jendalar

Hunters with the Beast within active will do +10% dmg with this (Confirmed on testrealm) however the backfire damage is also +10%

Comentario de 133226

Apparently they decided that buffing anything Engineers make would be too out of character, so they canceled the cast time change.

3.0.8 and it's still 1 second.

Comentario de 309057

As of 3.0.8:

The trinket is still Bind-On-Pickup, but it now also requires Engineering (425), meaning that if you have dropped engineering, you will no longer be able to use the trinket. On a related note, the similar Gnomish Death Ray still does not have any Engineering requirement to use. (I, for one, found this trinket alone to be worth re-leveling engineering to 425. Others will beg to differ, I'm sure.)

The trinket's cooldown has been reduced from 1.5 minutes to 1.0 minutes.

The trinket still has a 1.0 second cast time, but it can be cast while moving.

The trinket can still be used while the GCD is hot, and it still triggers the GCD after the cast is finished and the bolt is fired.

The trinket can still be used in arenas.

The trinket is still an excellent choice for just about any class who benefits from ranged, on-demand burst damage (ie. PvP healers and melee DPS).

Comentario de 151627

Can this be used in arena's?

Comentario de 313293

This trinket is extremely useful for melee classes.

For example, when I was playing on my rogue I was attacked by a druid. As usual he engaged me in melee for a bit, then decided he needed a HoT, so he rooted me and tried to do the normal kiting technique druids do against rogues. However, once he changed form to escape melee, I used deadly throw, fired a rocket out of my gloves, and then killed him with a nice 5k crit from my lightning generator.

Later, a mage started to attack me. I got up close, but eventually he managed to freeze me and started doing his blink kiting techniques. Again, I threw my dagger, fired a rocket, and zapped him with the lightning generator from range and finished him.

It might not be the best dps trinket for all you casters out there, but for melee it really adds another dimension to your attacks.

Comentario de Kobrakai

Has anyone been able to determine as to whether the damage scales with Spell Power, Attack Power, both or neither yet?

Comentario de 52965

Usable in arenas?

Comentario de 259773

hmmm wasn't it supposed to be instant cast since 3.0.8?

It's still 1sec cast (off gcd) and you can move while casting it but well.. not instant.

Comentario de wilosoft

No I don't think it scales with AP, I'm a DK with 1758AP self buffed with horn of winter rank 1 on, I just critted with it 4413 on a mob in winterspring :D

Comentario de 197823

Is it usable in arenas? I saw a rogue with the flawless victor title wearing it...lol.

Comentario de 114927

Just built this for my rogue and I tested it with Hunger For Blood up and it indeed hit harder. 3419 and it crits as well. However it does not use cold blood ;-<

However it does have an occasional kickback. Mine critted for 5159 but hit me for 5824

Comentario de 211590

As it currently is, 3.0.9, it's

1 second cast, can cast while moving
45y Range
1m CD
Seems to backfire about 20%-ish of the time

The worst part is (This is why I'm happy to finally be rid of it, replaced with Meteorite Whetstone) that the backfire can also crit, which is horrible as a rogue, especially at level 75-ish when it backfire-crits you for 6500. Yes, it can crit that high, so keep that in mind.

As a Rogue, I liked to have a macro that was just
/use Insert-Glove-Name-Here (Assuming your gloves have the Pyro-Rocket tinker)
/use Gnomish Lightning Generator
In that order, as the GLG uses the CGD & has cast time, but the Pyro-rocket is instant and off GCD.
It's something nice when your at 0-10 energy, something to hit when you can't do anything else.

That said, it's still fun and great for PvP, keeping another Rogue in combat, whatever. Still worth it, and a true engineer will at least use it for a while... Or until it causes their death, either or.

(P.S. this thing killed me once at a training dummy, was testing DPS as Combat (Normally Subtlety), and my health was at about 4k, and I thought that should be fine for one more backfire. Next time CD's up, hit my macro, BZZZZZZZ!, backfire-crit for 5k! Luckily a nearby Paladin rezzed me, felt pretty stupid =D Just keep the potential-suicide in mind)

Comentario de Asse

It procs deep wounds!

Comentario de 329006

Here are some facts I've collected about this trinket:

Engineering 425, no Gnomish requirement.
Binds on Pickup
Range - 30 yards
Backfire rate - around 10%, so very low
Backfire hits you and the target for a random amount each within the damage range.
Lightning bolt does Not chain
IS Enhanced by Metamorphosis (20% dmg boost)
IS Enhanced by Curse of Elements (and I would imagine similar effects)
Can critically strike
Can proc Lightweave Embroidery

This is a great trinket for BGs unless you get particularly unlucky. Being able to throw out a 4.5k+ blast with this trinket that carries a Lightweave proc for 1.2k - 2k has earned me many killing blows.

Comentario de Teuz192

i love this trinket <3 being a rogue, and being able to shoot bolts of lightning it's so cool :D (quite useless after all but i still love it)

it reminds me of Full Metal Alchemist too, can't remember the name of the guy with special gloves...

Comentario de 309374

This little trinket is responsible for some devastating burst damage, especially in BG's. Enemies barely have time to react with this synched to my explosive shots :).

Comentario de 114730

I can definitely confirm that this item, in fact, can cause critical strikes.

Both on your primary target and while backfiring, independantly.

I've gotten as high as 6 984 damage on a crit with this thing. Note, though, that I'm in fact a level 69 Retribution-Paladin "Twink", and do not possess Avenging Wrath. I did this with Berserking from WSG up.

in my experience, it normally backfires for a higher amount than it caused damage from. But that may just be my perception, and in any event, this is offset with criticals on both ends.

It seem to follow Spell Critical chance, rather than physical, but this is just a rough estimation, as I have 33% phys. crit, and ~22% spell.

It's an incredibly fun and intriguing item to use. Dangerous? Of course. That's part of its charm.
But i must say; If you kill yourself with the backfire, and get your own killing blow, you WILL not be credited a death on the scoresheets of BGs, but it DOES account for the sake of achievements. (ie, Wrecking Ball; Iron Man)

Use at your own risk. But don't worry. "It's safe!"

../Sam, Twisting Nether, EU.

Comentario de 333614

range is 30 yard, and you can cast it while running

Comentario de 218582

Anyone know if you can equip two and have a reliable 6k burst? Or.. maybe one every 30 seconds, I don't know cooldown mechanics very well.

I'll have to make another and try them out.

Comentario de Naughtelos

"It's Safe!"... It's nice that Gnomes have finally dropped the legal BS and have just started lying straight to our faces.

Comentario de ares90

What's Spell Damage coefficeent? (Trinket deal 2610 to 3190 damage and i have 2000 bonus spell damage, how many damage i'll got?) :)

Comentario de 49270

Does using this trinket as a feral druid shapeshift u from cat/bear to humanoid form?

Comentario de 169131

Hunters in Aspect of the Viper will have the damage halved, both to their target and to their own self when it backfires. Sixty percent damage (self and enemy) if they specced into 11th point Beast Mastery talent Aspect Mastery. This will also regenerate a portion of mana as though you were attacking physically.

Comentario de ckoB

Very LAMEweapon in 2v2 pvp, we faced 5 times DK/Pala both had em.. My pala didn't even got time to bubble when dk first hits 6 icy touches and then both of them uses the generator and pewpew my friend is dead :( Should get out of arenas imo.

Comentario de 106456

You guys don't even know how awesome this is for a priest. I'll have Shadow Word:Death macro'd with this trinket permanently.

Comentario de 343793

This is my new favorite trinket. I have a level 80 death knight and I use this trinket while farming, doing dailies--anything that involves even level mobs or lower. It's a great utility for pulling if death grip or death coil is unavailable. Besides, it's a big bolt of LIGHTNING so the cool factor is there. It does crit. I estimate it backfires about 10-15% of the time. I wouldn't recommend equipping this for heroics or raids. It's not worth losing the stat another trinket can offer, but in terms of utility this is a solid addition to engineering.

Comentario de 59638

As of 3.1PTR (build 9757)
now deals 1530 to 1870 damage. (Down from 2610 to 3190)

Comentario de Benegesserit

Getting nerfed in 3.1. As if Engineers didn't already get enough of nothing from Blizzard. Thanks for the salt.

Comentario de Wezagred

Nerfed in patch 3.1.0 by atleast half the damage.
Useless now.

Generates a bolt of lightning to strike an enemy for 1530 to 1870 Nature damage. This entire device is made of metal....

http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=55039

Comentario de ArashikageClan

I didn't see this in the most recent PTR notes, but when I logged in last night right before server restart, the damage nerf had gone through AND 84 crit rating was added to the item, granting the same crit rating as Mirror of Truth. Not sure why that wasn't in the patch notes and if it is here to stay or not though.

Comentario de 91848

This item get's a significant nerf in the upcoming 3.1 patch:

"Gnomish Lightning Generator now deals 1530 to 1870 damage. (Down from 2610 to 3190)"
- Direct quote from patch notes

Comentario de 72279

If you are thinking about leveling engi mainly for this trinket, dont.

3.1 PTR Patch Note:

Gnomish Lightning Generator now deals 1530 to 1870 damage. (Down from 2610 to 3190)

Comentario de 197823

Not worthless, but worth so much less after the 3.1 nerf (in the arena setting).

Comentario de 90006

Also, it will now be an instant cast and will have passive crit rating. On the other hand it might have had it's damage reduced even further.

Comentario de ArashikageClan

Now on a 10-second dps burst item category cooldown, according to the current 3.1 PTR patch notes. No more stacking this with a hand rocket for massive burst :/

Comentario de 345029

The backfire rate I've experienced with this item is absolutely horrific. I've only counted the last 30 uses and it backfired 13 times (hits both you and your target for the same amount). I know that's an extremely small sample but the reason I even decided to keep track in the first place was because I noticed it hitting me so frequently in battlegrounds...

Comentario de 52647

As of 3.1, has 84 crit rating passive, deals 1530-1870 damage, and is insta-cast on a 1 minute cd

Can be cast simultaneously with a POM spell

Comentario de malum

New Stats:

Improves critical strike rating by 84
Use: Generates a bolt of lightning to strike an enemy for 1530 to 1870 Nature damage. This entire device is made of metal.... (1 Min Cooldown)

Shares a 10 second cooldown with the hand rocket, and accelerator.

NOT ON THE GCD! Could be better than mirror of truth, running some tests to see.

Comentario de 174047

6% crit at 60,and you can equip two of them!

edit: after 3.2 grand master engineering requires lvl 65 to learn

Comentario de desolatedmaggot

Stormstrike doesn't appear to have an affect on the damage of the Generator's lightning. :(

Comentario de 36622

Nikola Tesla would be proud :)

Comentario de nerflocked

As of 3.1.2 it seems like it never crits. Backfire rate seems very low...

Comentario de 111622

They nerfed the Damage, but added Crit.

Comentario de 367381

Blizzard totally screwed up since they didnt remove thease, Sonic Boosters or any of the Grand master engieering gadgets from level 60 players, when the level requirement to it is level 65.

Comentario de MoonLite

Also, keep this in mind for alts, as at lvl65 you can crank up engineering to 450!
Gnomish Lightning Generator + Noise Machine or Sonic Booster + Hand-Mounted Pyro Rocket makes leveling a whoooole lot easier and faster.

To make things complete, at engineering 350 (lvl55) you can use Saronite Bomb, which are now dirt cheap (24-40 bombs per craft).

And ofcourse at lvl62 and lvl72 the epic headpieces.

Comentario de Darxide

I did a little testing with this on a training dummy and it seems that because it is nature damage, it is affected by spells like curse of elements. now I have set up a macro like so:

/cast Curse of Elements
/use Gnomish Lightning Generator

You can also use either

/use 13
/use 14

If /use Gnomish Lightning Generator doesn't work (I'm at work and cant check right now)

That way you curse just before the GLG goes off and is affected by the extra 13% and resistances

Comentario de 316937

A note: Cloak of Shadows does NOT mitigate the possible backfire it seems.

This thing backfires frequently and can even crit yourself! While not criting your opponent to boot.
This has even landed a killing blow on myself once. The "It's Safe!" is correct if your comparing it to a speeding bus with AIDS encrusted spikes on the front.

Comentario de 403496

I love one shotting players at the lvl 19 bg with this one, I have a 19 rogue with 450 engineering <3

They think they are going to kill me, then I use this 1 sec cast and BAAM, they just WTF :D

Comentario de 347626

In action : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g422Zd2gRck&feature=related

Comentario de alfonzzo

poor man's Darkmoon Card: Death. less damage, and longer cd.

On the plus side, it's usable before 80, and it makes you look like Emperor Palpatine.

Comentario de Fenarth

My observations on this item 3.13

- When it backfires it hits yourself like always but ALSO hits your target regardless
- Range is not as good as hand rocket now (unsure of exact number)
- Backfire hit me for 3.4k crit maximum

Comentario de 442824

do you have to be a gnomish engineer to make/use?

Comentario de 399426

have this on my rogue i would say, don't spend to much time or money on this if u don't realy need it. i would say that hand-mounted pyro rocket is better:

1) no chance on taking damage

2) same damage

3) less cooldown

4) longer range

5) doesn't take an item slot

btw: if u have both and u use one of them the other will have a short cooldown

Comentario de Bombers

From what I recall spell power also helps with this item. I was using it earlier as a warrior and only did around 1-2k from about 6-7 uses. While my friend would hit constant 3-4k damage amounts as a ret paladin. Maybe I'm just not lucky with this item but I still find it very usefull for quick burst damage.

Comentario de 281980

For some discuisons about criticals with this trinket http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbTEMqUUSy0&feature=related at 0:43 you can see it making a nice crit

Comentario de Teliko

The item is not unique? :S What happens if you have two equipped?

Comentario de GoatFooker

Hunger for Blood does not seem to affect this.

Also, I had not seen it mentioned, but I could not get any of my activation trinkets to work in conjunction with this or the hand-mounted pyro rocket. Both went to cooldown for the duration of the trinkets.

Comentario de 24111

If you still like using this and also have the Hand-Mounted Pyro Rocket , here's the macro to use them with 1 button:

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=60 13, 10

13 is your first trinket slot, if you have it in the second slot, use 14. 10 is for gloves slot.

Comentario de Oakenshadow

So, from what i understand, if you have a rich enough char to get all the mats and help your alt power level his engineering, then he could send something this powerful to a level 19 twink if it was possible. that would be awesome

Comentario de 609990

Im leveling an elemental shaman in bgs and this trinket coupled with the hand rocket is amazing. i have it macrod with my lightning bolt and i can punch out so much burst.

flame shock, lava burst crit, chain lightning/trinket = 11 000 damage instantly (by the time my lava burst gets to the target, my chain lightning/trinket are hitting him). makes for a good show. and thats without my chain lightning/trinket critting.

and if that doesnt kill him (im not 80) round 2 will commence in 10 seconds (the hand rocket and trinket have a 10 second cooldown between them)

Comentario de 504286

in fact, the warrior i used it on seemed rather shocked when i crit him for 5652...lol *Pun intended*

Comentario de sidelsky18

Some facts:

1700 average hit / 2700 average critical hit.
About a 5% chance to damage you as well as the target.
Chain lightning animation, no bounces though.
Might use your critical chance, but mine is about 12% and this crit about 7% of the time.
While questing, made about 6% of my damage.

Here's an amazing macro for priests. This macro will put a shield on yourself and then use the lightning generator on your target. If it damages you as well you take little/no damage and if it doesn't you still have a shield!

#showtooltip Gnomish Lightning Generator
/cleartarget
/cast Power Word: Shield
/targetlasttarget
/use Gnomish Lightning Generator

Comentario de 682635

And FYI as of 4.0.1 if you don't want the crit this can actually be reforged :)

Comentario de 627505

Does a mass AoE underwater.

Well, it would be nice if it did.

Comentario de SlapahoGaming

was curious about the CD on this trinket if you have two equipped, anyone have information on that?

i know its a 15 sec CD between this and the rocket gloves (or atleast thats what it used to be) so can you use one trinket -> 15 seconds later use the other -> and then 15 secs later use your rocket gloves?

Ver en 3D Enlaces

Notas rápidas

Capturas de pantalla

Vídeos

Generador de relámpagos gnómico

Nivel de objeto 35
Se liga al recogerlo

Abalorio

Aumenta tu índice de golpe crítico +6 p.

Uso: Genera una descarga de relámpagos que golpea a un enemigo y le inflige 82 p. de daño de Naturaleza. Este aparato está construido entero con metal... (1 Min Reutilización)
Necesitas ser de nivel 24
Requiere Ingeniería de Rasganorte (50)
"¡Es seguro!"

Precio de venta: 8 5 7

Generador de relámpagos gnómico

Información relacionada

Contribuir