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Comentario de jjanchan

Tutorial de diseño de circuitos de Joyatrón is a coming Toy in Legion created by Engineers. It will be available to learn via Legion Engineering, but can be crafted at Engineering skill level of 1+. It can be used by anyone (not just Engineers) and can be auctioned or traded.

Using this item will start a minigame. This is the associated achievement - La distancia más corta.

Jewelcrafting has a similar item - JewelCraft. This item is also a Toy, and starts a Bejeweled-like minigame. It has an associated achievement: La joya caliente.

Comentario de varenne

La distancia más corta is awesome.
Engineers can craft Tutorial de diseño de circuitos de Joyatrón. Everyone else can buy it from AH.

This toy will start a minigame.

Zoom your camera and play the board game.
There are dots and each dot has connections with other dots
You can swap dots positions by clicking on 1 dot and then clicking one more time on another.
Place dots in such a way that all connecting lines don't cross.
Lines will become blue when you have the right placement.
You will get the same amount of dots and lines for each turn every time you play the game.
But initial dots position is random
You can create completly different shapes at the end of each turn with the same dots.
So don't consider my info below as the only acceptable.
It is just one of the options you can use.
Here on turn 15 you can create

Turn 15 option 1
or Turn 15 option 2

And both work just fine

You will start from the very begining if you close the game.
Combat stops the game, so don't try to do it in Shal'aran
All screenshots are here: http://imgur.com/a/twXyl/layout/grid

id Screenshot Video Time per round (sec)
1 2x2 Square https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=0m00s 7
2 5 dot Circle https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=0m07s 7
3 6 dot Circle https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=0m14s 13
4 3x3 Square https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=0m27s 20
5 Double circle/random https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=0m47s 20
6 10 dot Circle https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=1m07s 16
7 Double circle https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=1m23s 14
8 Square with inner triangle https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=1m37s 23
9 16 dot Circle https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=2m00s 28
10 4x4 Square https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=2m28s 42
11 Double circle/random https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=3m10s 22
12 Square in square https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=3m32s 23
13 Square in star https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=3m55s 25
14 24 dot Circle https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=4m20s 39
15 5x5 Square https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=4m59s 78
16 Double circle https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=6m17s 50
17 6x6 Square https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=7m07s 88
18 3-circles https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=8m35s 102
19 4-circles https://youtu.be/GpsoFp2BcSA?t=10m17s 159
20 5-circles https://youtu.be/vuVobm_uzig?t=46m41s 15 mins
21 6-circles https://youtu.be/vuVobm_uzig?t=1h1m41s 50 mins
22 7-circles https://youtu.be/vuVobm_uzig?t=1h49m49s Madness;p

I played 2 rounds extra just for fun
Actually i had no idea that there was an achievement. Just played the minigame.

Hints:
Start with 1 dot and move all connected dots close to it.
Select next connected dot and repeat step 1.
Start with dots that have less lines. They should be on the outer border
Find dot with 2 lines. and put it on the border.

For squares this dot should be in the angle
For circles it is the outer border point

At some point you can end up with 2-3 dots not fitting.
To solve this you have to look for places that break the pattern.
here look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuVobm_uzig&t=1h39m08s, the border of the circle is wrong in 2 places, so you have to fix it

The last couple of levels are quite challenging.
Extra rounds are insane. you can't see lines, it is just one red mess,
I reached 7-circle round and i couldn't see anything. 6-circle round was also "finding the line".
Some sort of highlighting is definitely needed for the last rounds.

Comentario de teebsalot
I crafted this toy, started the mini game; and when i looked at the clock nearly 2 hours had gone by.

I eventually gave up a few levels after getting the achievement. I wonder if there is a feat of strength at a later level.

Comentario de Tsaza
I spent around 2 hours trying to make sense of #22's lines. Once I hit #23, I immediately gave up as it looked like this http://i.imgur.com/A6tCKaP.jpg

Comentario de Vegedock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWCbN1oo2GY

Guide to try and make this as simple as possible, it's randomized each time so I could only provide tips as much as I could. Best of luck.

Comentario de taylorde
This game is so frustrating idk how others are finding it so easy i feel every time i think i got the puzzle down it only ends up making it worse. Probably felt really challenged at this puzzle game and getting this achievement is pretty difficult at least for me who is bad at puzzle games.I can imagine how rewarding this achievement must feel once you complete it but i would not dare try past level 20. While i probably won't reach level 20 for some time it is a great time killer when camping a rare spawn as you can instantly tag the mob and get the loot without having to wait and helps kill the boredom but you would lose the progress if you went really far so choose wisely. You can use the toy while mounted and it won't lose your progress although i don't think its advised to play the game while mounted lol.
EDIT: I just realized you can play the game while on a flight path however it will be a lot more annoying trying to do it.

Comentario de Jujukemp
This has me so curious i made it to level 21 but im wondering if it does end.. If you do get a special prize how awesome would that be

Comentario de 1170496
Fair warning; disconnections reset the game.

Not saying i was at around rank 15 but...i may have said some non-blingtronny words as it took a while to get there.

Comentario de MirtaiCH
A small hint for the big squares like the 6x6. The dots in the corners can only have 2 lines connected. If you start by trying to find those dots and put them into corners, it makes the whole thing a lot faster than just blindly trying to make line after line blue.

Comentario de brian420
This may be the most infuriating thing I have done in this game in 11 years.

Comentario de Cleptor
I made the toy because I had some surplus materials and time raced by as I was playing. When I looked at the clock again, 2 hours had passed. This is really fun. Does anybody know a puzzle game like this for iOS?

Comentario de Chigsam
The best thing you can do is counting how many connections a dot has. For square puzzles, corners have two, sides have 3, and cross sections have 4.

For circles, you'll want to count how many dots form the loop. Inner circles have the least, outer has the most.

For the later puzzles. Well. Look at the solution. Try to count the dots. Some puzzles have multiple solutions, and others are slightly altered; level 19 for example, in the top comment has sort of "butterfly wings" shapes. Mine did not, one wing was correct, the other was upside down.

Comentario de tale
varenne already wrote an excellent post with great picture and video links, and here are some of tips re-emphasized with a couple of additional ones.

For most of the figures it really helps at the start to find a vertex (dot) that is connected to only two others, and get it to the outside. (The connections are always called "edges", even when they're not on the outside of the figure.) For the squares these dots will always be at the outside corners, with the exception of level 12 which has no two-edged vertex. For the circles, they form the outermost circle, with the exception of level 16 which has a disconnected inner circle.

Once you get a two-edged vertex to the outside, find the vertices that it is connected to and move them to the outside as well. Then keep repeating the process, even if the vertex you're working on has more than two connections. This is particularly useful on level 18+ to start disentangling the blob in the middle, getting adjacent vertices near each other. You should be trying to form a continuous path of blue edges 50-75% around the outside. Don't worry about the connections to interior dots yet. Note that in the last few puzzles you might not even be able to spot a double-edged vertex when you start, so just begin working with any dot on the edge and eventually you'll pull one out.

For levels 18+, if you are having difficulty determining what the other vertices are that are connected to one you have roughly in place, rather than spending multiple minutes trying to trace the vibrating line I found it useful to instead move the known vertex over to a solved part of the circle and back again, triangulating how its edges move to find its other connected vertex and then finally move the distant one next to the starting one. Saves a lot of time.

Also for 18+, note that there is a regular pattern of shapes on each ring, where one more quadrilaterals made of four edges/vertices are separated by an irregular pentagram of five edges/vertices. In the outermost ring, the vertices with only two edges will be in the middle of each of these pentagrams. Using this pattern makes it super easy to determine which way to untangle some red lines when you have the vertices near to where they need to be.

Finally, pay extra attention to when you're doing stage 20, with the five concentric circles. I didn't hear or see the achievement toast and kept going all the way through 22 before looking at the insanity that was 23 and throwing up my hands in disgust ... only to discover then that I already had earned the achievement that was my goal, over an hour and a half earlier. Argh.

Good luck!

Comentario de Celticjazz
I didn't see anyone else mention this, but if you mouseover the "Blingtron's Circuit Design Tutorial" buff while you are playing it will clearly tell you which level you are on. For example: "Current Stage: 13"

Also, if you quit and open the toy again later (or even immediately) you lose your progress and start from Stage 1.

Comentario de Calucias
An easy guide on how to complete this achievement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-sfzS2PPJ0&feature=youtu.be

Comentario de Rightesnous
To earn La distancia más corta achievement, you need untangle wires in 19 schemes in mini game from Tutorial de diseño de circuitos de Joyatrón toy.
I spend more then 4 hours to hit 22 lvl without knowing the end results, so there is simple relaxing video 20+ schemes.
I hope this helps! Enjoy xD
Starts from 19 scheme all of it the same type.
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PS In the process of assembling schemes You can move, but if you abort the assembly, progress will not be saved and you will have to start from the first level.

Comentario de MerlinxIllidan
I just logged in to comment this achievement almost made me unsubscribe for real, no other topic has made me so mad and angry at world of warcraft, I can even tolerate bots, but this is rival to the time i got account hacked. Hated every second of this achievement I hope they stop screwing our favorite mmo and stop forcing cellphone apps into it or the like.

If you are not an achievement hunter, don't go for this.

Comentario de frakbt
Well, I finally did it. I spent all afternoon beating level 23, the puzzle with 8 rings, and no Feat of Strength, no hidden achv, not even the decency to concede I had beaten the damn game. What it did was increment the level to 24 . . . and put back up the same 8-ring puzzle I had already defeated.

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So, YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED. There is no secret cow level!
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If you're interested in my method:

First I found a node (Node A) that had only two lines connecting it, then put that at the bottom center edge. Then I took first a handy ziploc baggie, and later went and got a clear plastic ruler, placing one end on Node A and the edge along one of the vibrating lines (Line A) into the Pink Morass. Then I moved Node A to a new position along the outer edge, and saw where Line A intersected the ruler (Node B). Then I moved Node A back, and moved Node B from out of the Pink Morass to the node adjacent to Node A.

Rinse and repeat a bazillion times, frying your retinas in the process, and "Work complete!"

Comentario de anbuhq
Guess what guys. I got DC'd after one hour and at 15th puzzle...

Comentario de gamerunknown
I believe this is a reference to a class of problems in computer programming to do with finding shortest distance or minimum spanning trees: under certain conditions, they can be solved in polynomial time (a multiple of the number of arguments) - with relatively few arguments and enough computing power, a solution will be fast and this can be solved with an algorithm. Otherwise, they will be solved in exponential time, where the number of arguments becomes a power of the input: this can be fairly slow and may require a heuristic, meaning it will be difficult to predict the length of time in which one will find a solution. It was discovered many similar problems are computationally analogous, such as, if I recall correctly, degrees of satisfiability, minimum spanning trees and the knapsack problem.

Sorry it's not pertinent to the completion of the achievement: I'm not a computer programmer myself and I'm going off a faulty memory so there are sure to be technical inaccuracies above, but a friend recommended "Algorithms" by Padamitrou, Dasgupta and Vasirani to me and I found it fascinating. I think in fact that there may not be an algorithmic solution to each puzzle, meaning we rely on our own expertise and heuristics.

As for the achievement itself: I found leaving myself plenty of time, having snacks to eat while discouraged (honestly, having a sugar boost actually led me to complete a stage I was stuck on) and finally, for squares, isolating the correct "two edge" nodes in each corner before working my way around helped, as did treating concentric circles as if they were stacked squares...

Comentario de Morrivar
Couple things I noticed.
You only have to get to level 20, not defeat it, meaning you only have to beat level 19 to get the achievement.

You can hide the game's interface with ALT+Z and zoom into first person to make this much easier.

If you do the previous tip, you may not notice when you get your achievement. I honestly thought I was only on like 8 or something when I re-enabled the UI and realized I'd just earned the achievement.

Comentario de Trabuco
How do I move a point when Blingtron is covering it? I'm at stage 17 and can't progress

EDIT: had to restart. FML

Comentario de Richmond79
Yet another appalling, completely UNfun thing added by Blizzard. So much of the game is just dull grinding, waiting, RNG or crazily hard things like this. So few things are fun now

Comentario de Balrog
Let me tell you my horror story about this achievement..

If you've ever attempted it, you know it takes a pretty long time to get to level 19 and beat it to get the achievement... so here I was in Nazjatar just wrapping up one of those nifty dailies where you untangle ley lines when I thought "Hey didn't they have a mini-game like this on a toy or something?" and pulled up my Blingtron Circuit game.. I start it, all goes well but it takes ages to get to level 19... then someone drags a monster near me that does an aoe fear effect, my character runs away and the game vanishes..

Now okay it's my fault for standing in a zone where people can drag mobs on you I suppose.. So after banging my head on the desk a few times, I pick it up again and restart from scratch.. in a safer area without any mobs around in Nazjatar.

All goes well, a couple hours later I'm back on level 19 to finish it but it's really hard... and suddenly a random event spawns on top of me that only happens every few hours, and a mob attacks me, game goes poof.

After destroying my desk via face-plant, I went to a CITY to restart the game, and another couple of hours later I did get it.. phew!

TL;DR / Moral of the story : don't attempt this achievement unless you're in a SAFE and QUIET place.

Oh and all those youtube guides do not work AT ALL, the shapes are randomized to some extent but they do help in that once you see the finished model, you can get your mind around what you should be working towards.. but that's all they're good for, seeing the finished designs.

Good luck to all, and remember I suffered so you didn't have to!

Comentario de Thready
For BFA and beyond: Don't do this with war-mode enabled unless you're in a really safe place. I was in Stormwind City near Varian Wrynn's memorial.

I had just beat level 18, and started onto 19 when an undead warrior swoops down and hits me which ended the game. It was the most infuriating thing I have went through on this game since it took me a good 90+ minutes to get there (yeah, I'm a bit slow). I ended up re-doing this on a floaty island in Argus just so no one would mess with me. Took 2 gliders to get to the location.

Comentario de Volleynova
Got the Level 20 Achievement in a single sitting, less than an hour. Some tips.

- Don't waste your time: War Mode Off.
- Flew out to the little island with the pond on it floating near Dalaran on the Broken Isles, zoomed into my character's field of view, then turned the camera towards the open sky.
- ALT-Z to remove your interface and focus on the game at hand.
- Prioritize the connecting dots as being as close as possible.
- Start from the outside of the puzzle, getting those blue connecting lines, and working your way towards the inside.
- Dots that have less lines are almost always on the outside.
- On the big box puzzles, dots with 3 lines each making 2-3 beautiful acute sections from each other can be used on the outside corners.
- The more blue lines you create, the easier the puzzle gets. Good Luck.

Didn't bother going beyond level 20, as it's intensive enough from 15-20, nevermind the lack of achievement after 20.

Comentario de Marchenoir
Got this achievement today and I gotta say this might be the most unfun and frustrating achievement that I have ever done.

Not only is it incredibly annoying and long there's also the constant stress of getting dc'd and having to start it all over. Never again.

Comentario de trinketeer
i had fun i was sittin outside of sanguine depths after running a m+ and was sifting thru my toys, saw the bling game, decided to play for a while
was just vibing with UI hidden (alt+z), which is a helpful tip for all puzzle minigames - hide your UI with ALT+Z default hotkey

anyway yeah i had no idea there was an achievement for this :P i came here to see if there might be any more, or if its time to put it down.
some of the levels were really satisfying , some heartbreaking , level 20 looks like a heart breaking one IMO.. here i am procrastinating

good luck everyone

Comentario de Lightsang
The rage I feel inside when trying to do this achievement is unparalleled.

Comentario de Pacmane
A couple quick tips for the more difficult levels:

- Do this somewhere private where you won't be interrupted by players or enemies. It takes a long time to finish.

- Keep a Youtube video open so you can see what the finished result of the puzzle looks like. It is randomized tho so you won't be able to copy moves.

- For the square grid puzzles you want the 4 dots with only two lines on the 4 outside corners of the square & the ones with more connecting lines on the inside. Just keep building your grid framework & it gets easier from there with more squares completed.

- On level 19 you should start by building the outside circle one connection at a time but do not have any line crossing from one side of the circle to the other. So that means if a line connects to two points on the outermost circle, it won't work. Then start to build the inner shapes more afterward.

- There is no reward for going past level 19. On level 23 & onward it just repeats itself. (As far as anyone can tell so far lol)

This minigame will probably test your patience. Just keep at it & you should be able to get it eventually with the aforementioned strategies :)

Comentario de droidito
Are there some nodes that can't be moved? I get the gear icon over most nodes, but some don't have that and seem fixed in their position.

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