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Comentario de daviliguay

Llevaba intentando sacarme este logro desde que entre en el mundo,una manera facil de conseguirla es ir con un tanke solo o con un tanke y un sanador y matando a los moobs que hay al principio hasta llegar al 1er boos yo lo hice asi 1 vez a la semana hasta que me entere k si matabas a los moobs del principio no daba CD y entre y sali entre y sali y a las 3h de estar intentandolo asi lo pude conseguir pero me consto 3 años hasta poder verlo por 2ªvez y conseguirlo

Un saludo a todo el que intente conseguir el logro y animoo

Comentario de homero

es facil si tu te puedes curar yo soy pala dps y trankilo limpiaba, esa montura sale matando mobs, pero los mobs fuerte no cuanquiera

Comentario de Yodakun

La montura la obtuve el mismo día en que hice la raid Templo de Ahn'Qiraj siendo un Warrior tanke lvl 476 se hace muy fácil. Limpias todo y puedes obtener 4 monturas, una pet, un logro y la proeza de fuerza.

Monturas:

Tanque de batalla qiraji azul
Tanque de batalla qiraji amarillo
Tanque de batalla qiraji verde
y la que te da la proeza de fuerza
Tanque de batalla qiraji rojo

Además, puedes conseguir la mascota Joya de susurros enloquecedores

Comentario de SnagletoothWars

He seguido la táctica de matar a tres centinelas del primer grupo y dejar uno vivo antes de salir de la banda.

He tardado casi 3 horas pero ha salido.

Cada 30 minutos he reiniciado la estancia para limpiar un poco el suelo que se llena lentamente de cadáveres.

Fácilmente soleable a dia de hoy.

Comentarios

Comentario de mageofthesands

Popular lore states that red cars go faster.

Sadly, there are no racing stripes on this bug.

Comentario de 21990

not so bad to have spent dkp on it way back when now ;)

Comentario de 155629

There should be a way to "tune" the colors of the other crystal mounts to the red one thru Un'goro crater crystal collecting.

Comentario de 165519

(Just a small bit of info here on this achievment)

It's quite do-able with just 1 tank, 1 healer and 2 dps. (maybe easy with 1 dps but my group had 2)

I went in a 4 man level 70 group with my guildies and within an hour we all had 3 bug mounts each just from farming the resetting mobs at the enterence.

The red is the rarest of the 4 mount drops it seems, but still the drop rate of the mounts was suprisingly high.

So basically get some competant friends and you're set!

Good luck! :)

Comentario de 114992

The droprate seems high but remember that 40 people were rolling for the mounts back in those days

Comentario de 6363

So yeah...we did a run last night with about 30 sunwell geared people took about an hour casually...killed all bosses and pretty much all the trash possible...

We got by my estimate about 15 green 12 blue and 10 yellow and got no red mounts at all!

Comentario de 56783

The red mounts are a lot rarer than the other colors. Do not expect to get any reds during a full clear. My guild got about 4-5 in our months of farming this instance at level60.

Comentario de Einhander696

I was about to ask why there was an achievement for the red resonating crystal and not the other colors.

Then I read the achievement's title again.

Comentario de Harson

Why? Because It's Red!

Comentario de Raithon

When my group took down C'thun, I didn't notice the red ones dropping until after we had killed the twins. I may be wrong, but it seems like they drop more the deeper into AQ40 you are.

Comentario de 59326

At level 80, at least for a tankadin, the trash is completely soloable.

Comentario de Lanceler

Perfectly soloable by Protection Warriors.

I got mine after roughly 5-6 hours of grinding myself and the best way of grinding it appears to be:

Kill off the patrol at the start of the instance.
And charge the pack of 4 Anubisath Sentinel's.
Kill off 3 of them, run out of the instance & run back in, the 3 you just killed will have respawned and you just continue on killing those 3 for as long as you want.

Just keep in mind that they always have random buffs which they share with their 'brothers' when they die, and when the remaining anubisath's gain a buff and they're healed for 50% of their hp, so don't bother spamming cleave/tc/sw, just focus them down one by one.

Their Abilities (ninja'd from wowwiki):

* Mending aka Renew - Healing for 4752 every 3 seconds.
* Mortal Strike - ~3200 damage to the target.
* Periodic Knock Away aka Knockback - Periodically knock enemies away, reducing their hate. Immune to taunt.
* Periodic Mana Burn - Periodically casts mana burn.
* Periodic Shadow Storm - Periodically casts Shadow Storm. Targets all players outside of melee range and up to some distance >40 yards.
* Reflect Arcane and Fire
* Reflect Shadow and Frost
* Thorns - Causes 475 to 525 Nature damage to attackers. Resistible
* Thunderclap - ~800 Nature damage, no debuff, resistible.

Basically, leave the Mortal strike- & thorn-mobs until the others are dead (Unless you get one with Mending).

Good luck. :)

Comentario de Avarthas

Ya like to move it move it !

Comentario de blahism

Solod as Prot warrior on Tanaris Server. After Solo'ing AQ 20 I had a bug to go check out AQ Temple and first trash pull while insanely high HP was a breeze so I heroic threw at one of the 4 guards not thinking all 4 would come but i managed to live through the fight enough that the Green and Blue dropped. After eating some more +str +stam food I pulled the two pats and pulled the 4 guards in front of the boss and downed them. Red Mount dropped and with an ego the size of a watermelon I charged the boss (knowing full well it was suicidal) Got him down to 75% then his clones owned me. Going to bed a happy camper and thrilled to be able to see some of the beautiful content that falls silent in Silithus. Will make a small group to finish the temple and farm for mounts for the rest of the guild.

Comentario de intuit

Of course it's soloable. It was soloable at level 70 for most plate-wearers.

Comentario de 82181

Yet another RNG feat:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6013/wowscrnshot022309005215.jpg

edit: and it dropped the next day first kill >.<

Comentario de 269606

I decided to pop into AQ40 tonight and see if I could get this to drop. I'd already gotten blue and yellow from a previous visit, so I grabbed a friend to make it a raid, and went in solo. I tackled the first trash mob in bear form and lo and behold, it dropped. (Level 80 druid, resto spec but wearing my feral gear, which is a mix of blues and purples from quests, emblem rewards, and Naxx.)

Tedious fight, but do-able, one Eradicator at a time. (Demoralizing Roar, Feral Faerie Fire, Lacerate x5, Maul, Swipe, repeat as necessary... I lack the cool feral abilities in this spec. I also lack what it takes to survive the 4-packs.)

All I need now is green.

Comentario de 212003

simple guide:

go in, kill eradicator

kill 3/4 sentinels

run out

go back in

repeat steps 2-5

Comentario de UraRenge

The red color makes it faster!

Even WoW isn't immune to the Char Custom Rule.

Comentario de ajdinh

100% sure guide how to get it:

I got that mount. There were 30 people in the group and I rolled 100. For information you don't need to use the mount to get the archive,you just need to have it in your inventory.In two runs it dropped twice. But only one time in each. The drop is low but the lower the people the higher the chance to get it. I got all bug mounts except the black one. And I got them in 5 runs. With 20+ people and to say its not hard to get one. Just group up with guild and make it up who will get witch, so you make sure you get one. And if you pug never let the group loot on. I know it takes much to check the rolls but its worth then if you make the rule that you don't roll if you get or got already one mount and its on group loot, then they will need, its always one person. So its quite good and safe way that you make master looter in pug then there is always one that ninjaes it. If you read this carefully you wont have a problem with group to get the mount.

This is all guys.

Comentario de Deathdealers

Does this still grant you a feat of strength? Because my friend has it and has no feat of strength, he got it on patch 3.0.8.

Comentario de SaintAvalon

It still drops in 3.1, actually all four drop as I farmed each of the four, two runs (about an hours worth of killing) soloable as a prot pally.

You do still get the achievement as well by obtaining this one, the others don't.

Saint

Comentario de 420671

the drop chance isnt bad but ive ran this so many times that im getting tired of waiting, anyone know any bugs like the strat one?

Comentario de Pawaox

<<<HUMAN PALADIN>>>

Obsidian Eradicator & Anubisath Sentinel
Both has, according to The Armory, 1-2% chance to drop Red Qiraji Resonating Crystal. Therefore, you should in the teory have the mount after ~66.66 kills. which is around 22 resets.(if you kill all 4 on the 22th attempt)

When one dies, the rest will be healed for 46-50k Health (~42%-~45.5%)

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I did 18 resets, meaning that i killed 55 Anubisath Destroyers. In this timespan, i had 3 Obsidian Eradicators respawn, meaning that i killed 4 of them, making it 59mobs.
Yellow Qiraji Resonating Crystals Acqiured: 6 - Run 1, 4, 9, and 16 & Obsidian Eradicator Respawn 2 and 3 (~10% dropchance for me)
Blue Qiraji Resonating Crystals Acquired: 3 - Run 3, 7, 13 (~5% dropchance for me)
Green Qiraji Resonating Crystals Acquired: 3 - Run 8, 13, 17 (~5% dropchance for me)
Red Qiraji Resonating Crystals Acquired: 0 (0% dropchance for me)

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This is all the available buffs for the Anubisath Sentinels.
On the pull i quickly target all 4 of them, and marking them in the order i'm gonna kill (Skull > Cross > Star) - This goes quick if you have the marks bound.

They are placed in my Ret Pallies killing order.

Fire and Arcane Reflection - Reflects all Fire and Arcane spells & abilities
Shadow and Frost Reflection - Reflects all Shadow and Frost spells & abilities
Periodic Shadow Storm - Casts Shadow Storm every 9 seconds (~500 damage)
Periodic Thunderclap - Casts Thunderclap every 7 seconds
Periodic Knock Away - Casts Knock Away every 13 seconds
Thorns - Causes 475 to 525 Nature damage to attackers.
Periodic Mana Burn - Casts Mana Burn every 11 seconds
Mortal Strike - Casts Mortal Strike every 11 seconds (3000+ Damage)
Mending - Heals 4752 every 3 seconds (1584HPS)

Mending is by far the worst, as you have to do 1584 DPS, which is hard to keep up when you're using your healing 1H/Shield.
The worst combo i have yet to meet is (Mending, Mortalstrike, Manaburn, Thunderclap) - I just ran out and resat
The reflect abilities reflect weapon procs(example), trinkets(example). EVERYTHING in that school

AQ Specific Drops:
2 Clay Scarab
1 Stone Scarab
1 Ivory Scarab
2 Bronze Scarab
1 Gold Scarab
1 Crystal Scarab
1 Bone Scarab
1 Idol of the Sun

Mining:
Each time an "Anubisath Sentinel" dies, a "Small Obsidian Chunk" will spawn.
Mining it can give you:

Small Obsidian Shard
Large Obsidian Shard
Essence of Earth
Huge Emerald
Azerothian Emerald
Arcane Crystal <- Used for arcanite bars -> Thunderfury

Reputation:
Each mob gives 100 reputation (110 for humans) with Brood of Nozdormu
Since i killed 59 mobs, that gave me 6490 reputation.

Money:
57 Black Stone = 8g 55s
20 Runic Stone = 8g
Mining
84 Small Obsidian Shard = 21g
5 Large Obsidian Shard = 2g 50s
+Random @#$%

That's minimum 40g earned.
My repair was at 52g. That's 12g lost, not considering other drops.

Conclusion:

You farm for a hot "Feat of Strength", and it doesn't cost you anything but time.
The mount also count's towards the other mount achievements which, in the end, will reward you with a Blue Dragonhawk Mount(ally) Red Dragonhawk Mount(horde)

I myself, will continue this untill i get my Red tank!
Why? Because it's red!

Comentario de 293465

For italian users, you can find a strategy guide explaining how to get the mount quickly in solo or duo:

Good luck :)

Comentario de 427223

Por que? Porque es rojo.

Comentario de 272081

I got all 4 colors in the first run. I was in a raid group with a friend's alt that was offline for raid purposes only.

All I did was kill the trash that was at the very beginning of AQ40 before the first boss. If you do not get it all the first run after killing the trash before the first boss, run out and soft reset it and run back in. Rinse and repeat till you get all 4 colors. It's very easy to do and solo.

Comentario de Quilan

This CAN be easly done as a Prot Warrior just will take a bit : /

Comentario de 272081

Easy to farm and solo as a Ret Pally. Just group up with a friend so you can get into AQ40. Pull the first gryphon like pat first, then the next 4 anubus sentinels. Just use Seal of Light, Sac. shield up all times and use judgement of the wise for mana so you can offheal when Art of War proccs for a quick heal. I didnt use consecration because it uses too much mana, and you want to conserve your mana for offheals and attacks because the trash can use mana-burn on you. Use Divine Plea whenever the CD is finished, same with Avenging Wrath. Just kill trash up to the first boss. when done just run out and reset and keep farming the trash till you get the red mount or all 4 of them. Good luck!

Comentario de 467485

I just went into AQ40, killed the patrol tried the group of 4, got killed, went back in again killed the second patrol and got the red crystal. 2nd kill. EPIC.

Comentario de 293465

For italian users, you can find a guide how to get it easly here

Comentario de 468845

Thank u Sabrine really good guide :)

Comentario de 250295

You cant farm this mount all day...After 5 resets, you wont be able to enter the instance again for some time.

Comentario de 489945

But why is it red?

Comentario de 230180

Instead of running out, jump ontop of the smaller rock just to the left of the instance portal. The last mob will go into Evade, try to smack you a few times, then runs back and respawns his buddies. Don't jump off the rock until he's all the way back, and has stopped targetting you. I kill 3/4 mobs next to that rock, when there's one left, I jump up, wait 10, and repeats. No red yet though :)

Comentario de 521773

As an 80 feral druid, it took me 5 runs of killing the first 11 mobs of the instance with soft reset. 3 Eradicators, and 8 Sentinels. I also got 4 Blue's, 6 Green's, and 3 Yellow.

The drop rate is pretty low for Red, but after a few soft resets you should grab it easily. Don't bother attempting the boss unless you have someone else with you, it's ridiculously hard and requires skill, or a paladin. Do what I did and alt-tab after 11 kills. Log out, watch YouTube videos/work on your school or something, then get back in after 30 minutes. Rinse and repeat. ^^

Comentario de parishfeb

can you still get it Thervos?

Comentario de Doderidder

Got mine today. Dropped from the trash that spawned after a boss was killed. If I could just remember the name of the boss...

Comentario de Kalyino

This seems like a silly achievement, I could understand it more if you could use it outside the instance seeing how its harder to get and I think I only know of one person with the black bug mount on my server. Maybe that will change in Cat *shrugs*

Comentario de 250295

Every class in 80 can solo it, even if they can only kill only the Obsidian Eradicators. Its just a matter of time.

Comentario de cormanater

they go at 101% speed

Comentario de 79823

Easily soloable as a Shadow Priest (with mediocre gear) as well. I get to kill one of the Anubisath Sentinels then leave the instance so they reset. With better gear I'm sure you could kill more than one.

Talking about some RNG luck, please don't hate!

http://i50.tinypic.com/20gyykj.jpg

Comentario de megamech109

Easy to solo as a Blood DK, and (lucky me) I got it first try on the last mob just before the first boss.

Comentario de 472406

I popped into AQ40 with my Druid friend who was farming rep for the Brood of Nozdormu the other day. One of these dropped the first run I accompanied him on, and I won the roll for it. He mentioned offhand that it was the only color he didn't have, and I subsequently turned it over (read: forced him to take it from me), knowing that he had been running AQ off and on since vanilla (whereas I was running it for the first time). I was surprised to see the achievement pop, and he was bashfully grateful.

Comentario de 114233

Solo farmed this as frost spec mage.This is how I did it:
For start kill the first 3 Obsidian Eradicators in the start of the instance (you can easily kill them without using any of your cooldowns).
After that,you will need to pop elemental and mirror images and nuke one of the Anubisath Sentinels.They stand in groups of 4.You can't solo those groups as mage.So you have to nuke one down before your images get killed and after that you run and use invisibility.Wait for mirror images/invisibility cooldowns and repeat.The one you killed will respawn and the group will continue being consisted by 4 mobs so there is no chance for you to run out of mobs.
Sometimes the Anubisath Sentinel you dps might have a buff which allows them to reflect frost and shadow spells.In that case you have to switch target immediately ,or just use invisibility and pick another target.Also patience is something you need to have :)
Took me about 1-2 hours total but finally I got that red bug dropped.Good luck.

Comentario de RapeApe

Been farming this for a while now and I've learned a few tricks to help speed up the process. There are several ways to go about farming this. I started with the basic kill order method, which as a prot pally goes something like:

spell reflects>shadowstorm=thunderclap>thorns>knockback>mortal strike>mana burn>mending

You can pretty much follow any kill order you want in current gear, so long as you leave mana burn and mending for last. Mana burn won't be much of an issue for non-mana issues obviously, but it's quite the nuisance if you are. I actually found that it was better to just reset if you got a mob with mending, as the time it took to burn it down was not worth the effort. Following this kill order, I would kill the 4 Sentinels and the Eradicator, loot, and walk out and reset. However, with it taking only 5 minutes or so to complete this process, I started running into the "too many instances per hour" problem.

So, I started using the method described by another user to reset the mobs without leaving the instance. To do this, kill off the mobs until you have your one "undesirable" sentinel left standing, then head to the instance portal and jump on the smaller, rectangular rock to the right of the portal (as you are facing it). If you position yourself so that you are as far away from the sentinel while still on the rock, he will reset after 10 seconds or so. This way, you can reset the first pack of sentinels without having to leave this instance or use shadowmeld or some other type of aggro-dropping ability.

Interestingly, I noticed that the mob which you reset loses its buffs once it resets. As the sentinel is walking back to its original position, it has no buffs and does not gain any buffs upon being aggro'd, however if it reaches its original position, it will function normally. Thus, If you are quick enough to re-aggro the mob by jumping off the rock before it resets completely, you can add a "free" sentinel to your group. This sentinel has no buffs to pass to the other mobs when he dies, so it should be killed first. After using this method for a while, I also noticed that the "free" sentinel does not heal his allies once he dies, unlike the other sentinels.

This leads to the strategy of pulling all four sentinels and performing the rock-reset method. If you can re-aggro all the mobs before they reset, you will have a group of four sentinels without buffs, who cannot heal each other upon dying. With this strategy, you can burn through the mobs much quicker than you would be able to normally, and greatly increase your farm speed. I have also tried this reset method on all 8 sentinels that can be found before the boss, however I found it difficult to keep all 8 of the mobs on me after resetting them, but it would certainly be faster if you could perform this reliably.

I would encourage all people interested in farming the mounts to attempt some of the methods outlined here to see which works best for them. If anyone finds an even more efficient way to farm, I would love to hear it. ~200 kills with no mount is getting old.

Comentario de Darkflash

I got it the 1st time I ever did this lol

Comentario de 693690

I killed 370 of the trash mobs that can drop this yesterday and got 0 reds. Today I've stopped counting the mobs I killed and instead am totaling the mounts I've collected. Today I got 15 green, 16 yellow, and 8 blue and still no red. Starting to get really old really fast. I'm easily well around 500 kills now.

Soloing this as a frost mage.

Comentario de lovefishh

I'm currently trying to get this. I'm not counting though how many kills, but i've been there for atleast 2 hours now. lots of green/blue/yellow's but no red. (yesterday)

edit: just got it after 10 kills today :-)

Comentario de 697689

I just had all the Qiraji Tanks in one run of AQ, they're quite easy to get if you have decent gear, and if not too many people roll on them.

Comentario de DeadMAX

Took only 4 runs with the strategi posted here...kill 3 big guys and then reset.

Comentario de rooter

Does this mount still drop? Why is this a Feat of Strength if it is still possible to obtain?

Comentario de Bnecse

Confirming that this mount still drop in patch 4.0.3

Comentario de 786275

got this on the first trash mob i killed when i randomly decided to go in there because i was doing archaeology :)

Comentario de rezist

dropped from my first trash mob kill as well :) best mount ever.

Comentario de 212003

Have they upped the droprate? I walked in expecting to kill hundreds, and got it off first kill as well =D

Comentario de 637148

Got this after 2 trash kills, and 10 mins of farming it right before patch 4.0.1, I believe it still drops.

Comentario de 177952

It's Still a rare drop, and since you can only go into a set amount of instances per hour, it may involve some farming

Just for reference you can reset the 4 guard mobs without resetting the instance by killing 3 of them then leaving, it allows you to continually farm them without hitting the instance reset cap. I farmed this over the last two nights with a friend, night one we killed 74 of the AQ trash and on the last mob we did that night it dropped and my friend won the roll, we came back in tonight and it took 94 more kills to get it to drop a second time, at about 20 seconds per mob kill and about 20 seconds to leave and come back in it took about 1hr16minutes between last night and tonight to get us both the red mount. So not really that time consuming if you know the work around the instance reset cap.

Comentario de 568151

Dropped twice yesterday near the end of a full clear, was convienient, because 2 of us didn't have it. Did a nearly full clear a month or so ago and didn't see it once.

Comentario de 815842

Very easy to obtain as a prot pal... Did just like the comments above and got it on the third run...

Comentario de Digidan2005

Just to show how RNG likes to function, killed 1 mob. Just one! And the mount dropped. Invited a friend in being he saw I got it. 4 mobs later, ANOTHER red bug! Talk about lucky!

Comentario de 837873

Dropped for me tonight, got achievement. Me a very happy shammy. =D

Comentario de 864971

It's quite clearly the best battle tank ever.
Why? Because It's Red.

Comentario de 885931

just started farming this for my toon. First time i did it with a friend it dropped the third time ( we went in killed all mobs up to first boss for rep) then came out and reset dropped the third time. Came back the next day by myself dropped the third time (coincidence maybe) so i wanted it for my main logged on went in dropped on the third time again....logged on my other alt guess what dropped again(drops off the first mobs everytime i did it)

Comentario de DawnArchitect

All right, there are 2 methods of doing this - brute force and "clever usage of game mechanics". The drop chance of the mount is estimated to be 1%, so the grind is nowhere as painful as some other grinds in WoW.

The brute force method is to run AQ40 every week from the beginning to end. On level 85 you need only 1-3 people (although, with 1 it might be risky on C'Thun). There's a fair amount of mount dropping trash, so the chances are not that bad. Personally I had a terrific run with 3 other guys where the red crystal dropped... 6 times!

Another tactic is based on the fact that when you engage Centinela Anubisath packs, kill 3 out of 4 and evade the last (through leaving instance or otherwise), those 3 dead Sentinels will resurrect. Now the good news is that on 85 their aggro range is relatively small. The trick is to go to the SECOND pack of Sentinels near El profeta Skeram, kill 3, mark the last one with a raid icon (skull, etc.) and then engage the FIRST pack and kill 3 of 4 there. Evade them after that. This will result in 6 kills instead of 3, so the chances will add up faster. I got the mount in a matter of an hour using this approach.

Good luck to you, and may the Random Number Generator be benevolent to you!

Comentario de 682911

My wife and I ran through AQ40 last night - got this to drop THREE TIMES in the instance. Very happy, as we were only doing the instance to get her the Classic Raider achievement.

Comentario de simkaest

I farmed it just by myself.. Killed only mobs to the first boss, exited the instance and reset the instance.. Rinse and repeat.. Got me whole 11 time in total before got the crystal.

Happy hunting =)

Comentario de 1073941

i find it better to farm this with the pets in AQ.
I got it WAYYY before the pets were even available, but i find it fun just to go through it completely, and just cross fingers that it will drop, rather than farming.
And i mean honestly, your farming for a mount that you can't use... It's not very fun to me.

Comentario de karatechop

extremely easy to farm in MoP

Comentario de 1106042

is this still avaialble in the game , both item and achievment

Comentario de 1106042

all this talk about reset this raid isn't even possible anymore. Now the raid doesn't reset for 4 days..

making this and getting the pets much more difficult

Comentario de Eclipsegirl

I just helped my friend get this.

We ran the raid 3 times, killing all the trash, and still did not get the red mount to drop.

We tried farming the trash at the beginning and resetting the raid. We did that 9 times, and still no bug.

On the 10th time, we decided to do the raid again, the red bug eventually dropped right before C'thun.

It dropped twice. When it rains, it pours.

I had thought the red bug dropped once every raid instance. It does not.

I found killing the trash before the prophet silly.

Just keep running the raid.

Comentario de bloodywloc

Probably one of the easiest feat of strength achievement mounts to find .Considering that it can be droped be almost every mob that drops the mounts and there is plenty of them it is quite easy to farm

Comentario de strangeclouds

I ran it 6 times before I got it :)

3 blues, 2 greens, a yellow, and then my red.

Comentario de schnizol

I must've been incredibly lucky - I got two drop in the same run O.o

Too bad I can't get the ultramarine one from archaeology...

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