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Comentario de 1400213

Guía aquí http://youtu.be/y9dg9RtP3gE

Comentario de sis4dark

Este logro en primer lugar, intentaremos hacerlo al margen de los otros 2, para asegurárnoslo. Lo primero que haremos es comenzar por el lado izquierdo de la mazmorra, y limpiaremos en sentido antihorario hasta el Maestro de forja Gog'duh, es decir, pasaremos por delante Vigilante de esclavos Crushto, y continuaremos limpiando todo hasta el segundo encuentro. La razón de hacer esto, es para asegurarnos 100% de que Croman no muera en ese transcurso. Una vez limpio todo, volveremos de nuevo al Vigilante de esclavos Crushto, acabaremos con él, y salvaremos a Croman (guiño de Conan el Barbaro), el cual nos acompañará toda la mazmorra. Es importante saber que desde este punto hasta al final, el sanador deberá controlar la vida de Croman para que no muera, o no contará el logro. Iremos al segundo encuentro, que como hemos limpiado previamente todas las patrullas, será solo un paseo, y lucharemos contra Magmolatus, solo teniendo en cuenta de disipar las Llamas fulminantes, único daño que realmente afectará a Croman. Después de acabar con él, Croman se hará con su espada de la forja.

De ahí nos moveremos a Roltall, siguiente encuentro, que no debería de darnos ningún problema, y de ahí, a por el jefe final Gug'rokk. Como comentamos, al hacer este logro de forma normal (al margen de los otros 2 de la mazmorra), acabaremos con cada Invocar escoria inestable que salga y será un combate sencillo. Una vez acabemos con Gug'rokk, obtendremos el logro y a Croman como seguidor de nivel 100 épico.

Aquí tenéis un vídeo explicativo de como hacer el logro y el resto de Minas Machacasangre :

Guía de Logros - Minas Machacasangre

Comentario de 1083883

Aquí dejo una pequeña guía de como hacer este logro, con vídeo:
http://youtu.be/cgiBhhAoU-8

Seguidor épico lvl 100: Croman el Bárbaro

Logro: "Ven conmigo, si quieres vivir"
Mazmorra: Minas Machacasangre HC
Zona: Cresta Fuego Glacial (Se puede apuntar desde el buscador)

Primero hay que limpiar toda la mazmorra (lo que se puede) menos el primer y segundo jefe.

Lo mas díficil de este trozo es el pasillo hasta el segundo jefe, en el primer tramo nunca paran de salir elemetales si no matamos al gran elemental de fuego, recomiendo limpiarlo en 2 veces en la primera hasta matar al único elemental de tierra que hay y luego seguir hasta el de fuego.

Una vez limpio todo, mataremos primero a por el jefe "Vigilante de esclavos Crushto", una vez muerto, esperaremos un rato hasta que se marchen todos los esclavos de la sala (se puede buguear), iremos al molino que hay en la sala de este jefe y hablaremos con Croman para que nos sigua.

Muy importante a partir de este momento, si el grupo muere perdemos el seguidor y tendremos que vernir otro día.

Después tendremos que matar al Maestro de forja Gog'duh para que Croman coja su espada. Una vez hecho esto tendremos que terminar la heroica de forma normal, teniendo cuidado de que no muera el grupo para poder sacarnos el logro.

Comentario de Neoranga

Aquí os dejo esta pequeña vídeo guía de cómo conseguir este logro y su correspondiente seguidor, espero que os guste y os ayude, mucha suerte ^^

http://youtu.be/c1PgQjP4N3s

Comentario de Pencu

Aquí os dejo una pequeña guía de los logros de Minas Machacasangre. Espero que os sean útiles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Q-gee5MIk

Comentario de Garen

Tengo este logro pendiente desde hace mil años y hace unos días me dio por hacerlo con mi pícaro 110. Sigo todos los pasos cuidadosamente pero, cuando mato al boss final, Cronan se limita a arrodillarse en mitad de la mazmorra y se queda ahí, sin hacer nada, sin coger la espada y sin darme el logro. Lo he intentado varias veces en los días siguientes, en heroico y en mítico, matando al boss a toda leche y dejando que dure unos minutos, pero nada de nada.
¿Alguien sabe decirme qué demonios pasa, por favor?

Comentario de Fiber73

Este logro se puede conseguir en mítico. Comprobado por error, ya que el de una ofrenda de tierra y fuego no, debes hacerlo en heróico.

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Comentario de w3maniak

Double referrence to Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Achievement name is line from Terminator 2, where he said that to Sarah Connor*.
Mentioned NPC is referrence to Conan the Barbarian - another Arnie's role

* Edit:The same line (as murphmania pointed out) was used in first movie by Kyle Reese to Sarah Connor and in third movie (worded a bit differently though) by John Connor to Kate Brewster.
* Another edit (took me long enough): As pointed out below, the line also appeared in the Terminator: Genisys movie, this time said by Sarah to Kyle. Did not post it at that time because this post was made when only trailer was out, not the movie itself.
It has also appeared in WoW before, in the quest Vuelo del defensor de Hibergarde

Comentario de tmptfate

IMPORTANT:
You get a bonus reward not listed on the achievement tab if you complete this achievement.

You get... Croman as a Garrison follower! =D
(NO guarantee terminators will not invade your garrison or that the Riddle of Steel will be answered for you.)

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To Complete The Achievement:

Clear all trash on the way to the boss Magmolatus, but leave the boss alone.
Now clear the way to Vigilante de esclavos Crushto and kill him; talk to Croman.
Kill Magmolatus and let Croman get his sword.
Make your way to Roltall and kill him; keeping Croman healed at all times.
Make your way to Gug'rokk and kill him, wait for Croman to do his thing and get the achieve announcement.

Comentario de Sarthorius

At least 2 achievements on Schwarzenegger's shoulder :D . I wonder when they're gonna put that 'Hasta la vista, baby!" one in the game too.

Comentario de lovelywaz

There should be a special little sound track played out when you get this achieve instead of default sound.

De Den Den De Den .....

Comentario de Imbahitz

We have encountered a bug when we killed Magmolatus. After the cinematic Croman just disappeared into thin air nowhere to be found. This happened after a long 25 mins of clearing every single trash just to make sure the primitive NPC was safe.

Comentario de PheonixRising88

This character is a parody of Conan the Barbarian starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.

"Oh WoW gods, grant me this awesome follower for my army, and if you refuse, THEN TO HELL WITH YOU!"

(had to do it, loved the Conan movies)

Comentario de magette

We wiped on Roltall & Croman despawned checked around couldn't find where to get him back so be careful you don't wipe or you'll lose him

Comentario de 1400213

Guide here http://youtu.be/y9dg9RtP3gE

Comentario de 79637

When doing this achievement, wait for Croman to loot the items. If you move too far away he will simply despawn and you will not get the achievement.

Also you do not need to clear the way to Magmolatus first - Croman will survive even all those AoE mobs without a problem.

Comentario de saraf

Just Did this and at 3rd boss he Despawned was following our healer but when we engaged boss he despawned.

Comentario de THill52

If the person he is following dies then he will despawn.

Comentario de fracguru

Could you kill Rollator before the other bosses? My group has a hard time with that guy and I'd rather not screw up the achieve by wiping on him.

Comentario de Samer

Watch out for the enslaved miner that spawn after the first boss fight. They will run out of the dungeon if you don't kill them and Croman will follow them and despawn as well.

Comentario de Xizervexius

Does everyone in the group get him as a follower for the reward, or just the person that talks to him and frees him?

Comentario de restoemu

Easier achievement that what most people think it is
http://youtu.be/5IZmhjMRP80

Comentario de Nentia

I've done this achievement a couple of times now.
I find that it's easier to let the healer talk to him, and have Croman follow the healer around for the duration of the dungeon(In this case, me).

Even if I wasn't standing very far away, he would not engage in combat unless I attacked or was attacked, making it extremely easy for him to avoid all damage that could have been dealt to him. Though I found that even if we had not cleared the entire dungeon(minus bosses) before hand, he took no damage from AOE or other, unless he had actual aggro from a mob. This made it extremely easy for us to deal with. He even stood in the fire on the 3rd boss(even though the Loading Screen tooltip says not to!) and took no damage.

I don't know if this is intended, but it I don't mind either way!

Comentario de Forumchibi

Got this tonight on our first attempt - killed every single trash up to the first two bosses and all around the circle, freed him, then did the bosses.

Croman was actually very competent with a fair amount of survivability on his own. He ended up following me (tank), but was smart enough to stand behind the enemy for maximum damage, so he wasn't in danger of frontal cleaves.

He also seems to be fairly immune to ground mechanics. A majority of the "don't stand in bad stuff" mechanics he was able to ignore completely, such as the fiery boulders on Roltall, and the fire pools on the ground of Gug'rokk (and possibly Slag Smash on Magmolatus). The healer said he only ended up healing him maybe four times, and that they probably weren't even necessary - the only times they remembered him taking damage was for group-wide damage abilities that hit everyone in the room.

Seems pretty easy - if you can survive the normal boss mechanics as a group, you should be fine. Good luck!

Comentario de furiouscombat13

You don;t need to wipe for him to vanish. If the group member who cronan is following died, Cronan despawns.

Comentario de ItzFeral

Took me some time to figure this out, and I didn't see this posted yet. Croman is pushing the carousel or whatever it is called and it is to the back, right (looking at the boss Slave Watcher Crushto).

Update:
Look at Bloodmaul Slag Mines and you will see that in Slave Watcher Crushto's area if you look to the bottom right on the map, you will see Croman. Have the most competent player pick him up so they they don't die and cause him to despawn. In my case, I picked him up as a tank because he does not take much damage. I also had our healer put him on focus to see his health at all times.

Edit: How can I improve this post so it doesn't get downvoted? Or is it a random downvoting troll?

Comentario de bazzyl

Easy peasy: http://youtu.be/izZ_6LEyMpg

Comentario de 1459850

!*important*!

there is a bug with an ogre stuck up in a platform on the way to magmolatus. it is the left path at the circle before the boss. do not go that way with him or he will just sit there trying to fight him and wont follow anyone. I don't think its a problem if u kill the ogre, but hes in the air, so he requires range. so if you don't have help with the follower achievement, and your also a melle.. its GG ..... he wont move and will despawn when you leave.

do not take this path, go the other way...

P.S: I made an account to post this comment because the first comment says to clear all trash when you don't have to, unless hes trying to fight the trash.

stupid blizzard built in bugs.

Comentario de Gimroth

This is quite the Cromantic achievement. Or should I say, Cromanly?

Comentario de Deviousdb1

Only available on heroic, not available sadly on mythic.

Comentario de halies

easy guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pkrhMSYLDk

Comentario de drewbster

Looks like he scales to your level, so if you're catching up on Draenor achievements at 110, he'll be 110 as well.

Comentario de Boxofbeer

To earn this achievement you have to visit Minas Machacasangre instance and find there Vigilante de esclavos Crushto boss. In the right corner you'll see a slave wheel, where you'll find Croman the Barbarian. Defeat Vigilante de esclavos Crushto and free Croman. Now you have to take him to Maestro de forja Gog'duh boss, where he will pick up his sword after you kill the boss. Then defeat final boss of instance - Gug'rokk. You'll earn the achievement. Also keep Croman alive during the run, or achievement will be failed.
Achievement is a part of Gloria del héroe de Draenor.

Ven conmigo, si quieres vivir — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGMJTbnypG0
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Minas Machacasangre achievements list
Una ofrenda de tierra y fuegohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XBJe_cIjRg
Escoriasishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdmpO7U0zgw
Ven conmigo, si quieres vivirhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGMJTbnypG0

Comentario de Vedrian

Confirmed complete-able on mythic difficulty, 17 November 2017. Don't leave immediately after downing the last boss as the achievement will not pop until Croman's dialogue is complete.

Comentario de IcecrownEth

The Come With Me If You Want To Live achievement is still bugged as of this posting. I followed tmptfate's post, cleared both directions (sans killing Magmolatus of course), even cleared the mob hanging from the beam nearby. After liberating Croman, I escorting him back to his sword, killed the boss and he retrieved his weapon. However, while in the process of exiting the room I stepped on a Cinderling and having earlier eaten some Bear Tartare I sprinted away and Croman despawned. I did notice that the mob hanging on the beam had respawned, though I am unsure if this has any bearing on his despawn issue. I will update after testing that hypotheses. So to make a long story longer, beware speed buffs with him.

Comentario de axpen

Can confirm, as of this patch this achieve states "on heroic" but is able to be completed on mythic as well.

Comentario de Kopciuszek

Just to mention that this one can be also done on Mythic.
Got it today so 100% sure about it.

Comentario de Fierke

Just tried this on multiple toons, but since Forgemaster Gog'duh doesn't get killed anymore by Magmolatus, you just can't get this achievement anymore. As Croman keeps hitting Gog'duh and won't follow you anymore.

Comentario de Raven434

This was hilarious and I loved the movie references. Thanks for the tips! :-)

GET DOOOOWWWN!

Comentario de murrlkjljhklrrr

If you do the bosses in the wrong order (kill the forgemaster *then* pick up croman), you won't get the achievement. Bringing him to the forgemaster room does not make him pick up his sword. Only killing the boss works.

Comentario de Truweil

This is really easy, to make sure he doesn't bug out clear out all the trash up to 2nd boss, DO NOT MISS THE OGRE HANGING FROM THE LEDGE, (he is the primary source of the bug) but not boss, clear all trash between 1st and 2nd boss. Then clear 1st boss, free Croman, do 2nd boss, and so on. Available in mythic and heroic if you mess up your 1st attempt up.

Comentario de RocketFan

This doesn't work for my trying to solo it at max level (60 in Shadowlands). Everything is fine until he just kneels at the body at the end. He stays like that even after the body disappears. If I click on him, he says "Ah, the smell of victory. If only I had my sword with me... the things I could accomplish." I've let him stay like that for over 10 minutes.

Am I killing the mob too fast? I just one-shot him. I suppose I could use a wand to kill him slowly.

Comentario de Axcelsior

Worked very easily for me today on Mythic. Killed first boss, freed Corman, killed second boss, then he picked up the sword. Went on to kill last boss and achievement popped shortly after the kill. I just killed trash as I went and didn't have to clear anything ahead of time.

Comentario de daaani

If you pick Croman up AFTER you have killed Magmolatus, than he cannot find his sword....therefore... no achievement.

Comentario de daaani

If you pick Croman up AFTER you have killed Magmolatus, than he cannot find his sword.....

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Derrota a Gug'rokk junto a Croman el Bárbaro tras encontrar su espada en las Minas Machacasangre en dificultad heroica.

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Bloodmaul Slag Mines Dungeon Strategy Guide Glory of the Draenor Hero Guide to the Garrison Lunarfall Inn / Frostwall Tavern Warlords of Draenor Dungeon Overview Warlords of Draenor Follower Guide

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