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Comentario de Clan

Buenos días comunidad de habla hispana, aqui les dejo un largo resumen de los costo de creación de este abalorio y todas sus mejoras...

El primero y mas básico con ilvl de 640 Piedra del viento Que requiere
- 100 Catalizador alquímico
- 5 Aire hechicero
- El segundo con un ilvl de 655 Piedra de la tierra requiere ademas del primero
  
  150 Catalizador alquímico
- 20 Tierra hechicera
- 15 Sangre salvaje
- El Tercero con un ilvl de 670 Piedra de las aguas requiere ademas del primero
  
  200 Catalizador alquímico
- 40 Agua hechicera
- 15 Sangre salvaje
- El Cuarto con un ilvl de 685 Piedra del fuego requiere ademas del primero
  
  200 Catalizador alquímico
- 40 Fuego hechicero
- 30 Sangre salvaje

Dado un total para los 4 niveles de ....

650 Catalizador alquímico

Comentario de andresls12

Aquí les dejo mi guía de profesiones en la expacion de draenor.. Es un breve resumen de como funciona y lo que ha cambiado...
Espero les guste y les sirva..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In8e4eomjuI

PD: enfoco el vídeo en alquimia e ingeniería.

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Comentario de perculia

Full list of 6.1 Alchemy Trinkets:

Comentario de 319261

Total mats required for this trinket, starting from step 1:
Catalizador alquímico * 650
Sangre salvaje * 60
Fuego hechicero * 40
Agua hechicera * 40
Tierra hechicera * 20
Aire hechicero * 5

Comentario de Zoeteklem

*Updated for 6.1* - Philosopher's and Alchemist's Stones over the years

Vanilla	BC	Wrath	Cata	MoP	WoD
Piedra filosofal	Piedra de alquimista Piedra de alquimista de asesino Piedra de alquimista de guardián Piedra de alquimista de redentor Piedra de alquimista de hechicero	Piedra de alquimista indestructible Piedra de alquimista mercúrica Piedra de alquimista poderosa	Piedra de alquimista vinculavida Piedra de alquimista de mercurio Piedra de alquimista vibrante Piedra de alquimista volátil	Piedra de alquimista zen	Piedra filosofal draénica -New for 6.1- Piedra del viento Piedra de la tierra Piedra de las aguas Piedra del fuego

Remember, you need one of these to be either equipped or in your bag to do transmutations. Enjoy!

Comentario de Alcest

A little curious why this trinket forces you to use Alchemy (and doesn't have the 40% Health Tonic/Mana Potion increase), while the other crafted items don't...

Comentario de Aetherflux

Is this now showing versatility for anyone else? Didn't see anything in the PTR patch notes... Dropped engineering for this, hopefully it's a mistake.

Comentario de priestguy

These trinkets were extremely good when they had mastery; however, now that Blizzard has decided to change them to Versatility, they have become not much better than garbage. I understand the concern of an unfair advantage to alchemists...my suggestion is to revert them back to mastery and to make the trinkets BOE with an alchemical upgrade item available via the alchemy profession.

Patch 6.1 edit: Blizzard listened...the level 4 version of this trinket is now BOE! The versatility gives you 1.95% extra healing or damage and about .97% damage reduction; although, mastery would still be much better for most classes. The Strength, Agility or Intellect proc chance is 35%. The stat proc lasts for 15 seconds and the internal cooldown is 55 seconds. This trinket averages approximately 368 of your primary stat per second every min. The 40% extra mana and healing received from potions is a nice bonus...especially when used with Poción de rejuvenecimiento draénica or Poción de maná canalizado draénica.

This trinket would be a good upgrade for someone who has just transitioned into Blackrock Foundry; however, most of the trinkets that drop in BRF are far superior...especially at the heroic or mythic level.

Comentario de Blutelf

This was nerfed twice on the PTR, and unfortunately the result is garbage.

Comentario de Gilgard

Ahahahah now it has versatility instead of mastery. I knew that, It seemed too good to be true

Comentario de cnwing

This makes me sad. Was stockpiling those catalysts but now that it has vers instead of mastery I probably wont make this. Who uses vers? I don't know all the classes but that is the one stat both toons i play regularly try and avoid.

Comentario de 1439138

pretty nice change for mist and wind monks at least. mastery is #$%^ for us vers is pretty good for us. well see though.

Comentario de jjanchan

There are 6 stages for the alchemy crafted trinket, with the first 4 stages requiring the previous stage's trinket plus additional mats.

The initial stage for this item is an iLevel 640 trinket - Piedra del viento.
The mats for Piedra del viento are as follows:
100 X Catalizador alquímico
5 X Aire hechicero

The next iLevel upgrade is 655 - Piedra de la tierra
In addition to Piedra del viento, the following mats are required to upgrade to Piedra de la tierra:
70 X Catalizador alquímico
15 X Tierra hechicera
15 X Sangre salvaje

The next iLevel upgrade is 670 - Piedra de las aguas
In addition to Piedra de la tierra, the following mats are required to upgrade to Piedra de las aguas:
70 X Catalizador alquímico
15 X Agua hechicera
15 X Sangre salvaje

The next iLevel upgrade is 685 - Piedra del fuego
In addition to Piedra de las aguas, the following mats are required to upgrade to Piedra del fuego:
70 X Catalizador alquímico
15 X Fuego hechicero
15 X Sangre salvaje

This makes the sum total of mats to reach the Stage 4 trinket as follows:
310 X Catalizador alquímico
5 X Aire hechicero
15 X Tierra hechicera
15 X Agua hechicera
15 X Fuego hechicero
45 X Sangre salvaje

Stage 5 can be achieved by using a Espesagua on Piedra del fuego to create Piedra de las espesuras (Item Level 700).
The materials to craft Espesagua are:
175 X Catalizador alquímico
30 X Aire hechicero
30 X Añublovil

Stage 6 can be achieved by using Destilado de elemental on Piedra de las espesuras to create Piedra de los elementos (Item Level 715).
The materials to craft Destilado de elemental are:
350 X Catalizador alquímico
60 X Fuego hechicero
60 X Añublovil

This makes the total mats to create a Stage 6 trinket (Piedra de los elementos) as follows:
835 X Catalizador alquímico
35 X Aire hechicero
15 X Tierra hechicera
15 X Agua hechicera
75 X Fuego hechicero
45 X Sangre salvaje
90 X Añublovil

Comentario de Biftard

Just made this and tested it out on a dummy. I can confirm it has a 55 second ICD. Which normalizes to roughly 368 of your primary stat.

Comentario de FriendlyFacts

This stone, the 4th level upgrade of dreanor Alchemist Stones, is bind on equip, unlike it's previous upgrade levels.

Comentario de sakera

Just made this on my Alchemist and it doesn't say that it requires Alchemy (1) anymore. So, does that mean anyone can use it now?

EDIT: Just seen the Hotfix update, so yes it no longer requires Alchemy to equip.

Comentario de felixhui

6.1 Hotfixes: March 3
Items
•Stone of Fire is now bind on equip and no longer requires Alchemy to equip.

you can equip two at once, but only one buff will be trigged

Comentario de Problim

Anyone know what is the internal cooldown on this one?

Comentario de Aquifel

Patch 6.1.2 - Build 19711 Patch Notes:

Stone of Fire is now bind on equip and no longer requires Alchemy to equip.

I guess Inscriptionists have a slight amount of competition for trinkets now.

Comentario de wiuu

Since it has 55s ICD it lines up almost every other CD so it gives much more than a flat 360 primary stat.

With the Blackrock Foundry ilvl increase this trinket will also get +5 ilvl since it is a stage 4 craft.

Comentario de kevb70

This trinket would be a lot better with two random secondary stats, so not all trinkets are the exact same.

Comentario de Willowwhisp

Can an alchemist make the Stone of Wind, Water, etc. and wear them, and then make the Stone of Fire and give it or sell it to another toon?

Comentario de Spanky2k

I can confirm that if you have created and equipped a Piedra de las aguas, you can unequip it and upgrade it to a BOE Piedra del fuego.

I have just done exactly this. I crafted a 670 trinket for my alchemist and when I replaced it with a blackrock foundry 685 trinket, I unequipped the old one, upgraded it to the 685 new one and sent it to an alt. :)

Comentario de Draewind

For a healer using Poción de maná canalizado draénica in a 10 minute fight, the stats are:

265 Versatility
355 Intellect
170 Spirit

Do not forget that when WoD came out, Versatility was broken and was repaired in 6.1. A lot of the basics of theorycrafting was done long prior to the fix and was never repeated. Versatility is a difficult thing to measure, it affects EVERYTHING. When it was broken it appeared to be a black hole where stats were simply wasted. That is no longer the case. Odd that folks noticed the stat was broken but never bothered to retest now that it has been corrected and working as designed.

If it were anything but Versatility, no other trinket at this level could compete by the older computations, so if Versatility is anything near its design... this is a GREAT trinket.

This trinket will increase your healing or damage by 2.04% and decrease your "damage taken" by 1.02%.

It no longer requires Alchemy to wear.
It is nice to have a Tónico sanador heal for 100k (instead of about 70k).

Comentario de Alexxiis

This may or may not be common knowledge now, but for tracking purposes it's Intelecto.

Comentario de menace97

Here's an updated (Patch 6.2) list of the 6 stages of this epic trinket:

Comentario de ravencrows

All the matts you need to make and upgrade your trinket 6.2

Stage 1 Piedra del viento
Catalizador alquímicox100
Aire hechicerox5

stage 2 Piedra de la tierra
Catalizador alquímicox70
Sangre salvajex15
Tierra hechicerax15

stage 3 Piedra de las aguas
Catalizador alquímicox70
Sangre salvajex15
Agua hechicerax15

stage 4 Piedra del fuego
Catalizador alquímicox70
Sangre salvajex15
Fuego hechicerox15

stage 5 Piedra de las espesuras
Catalizador alquímicox175
Añublovilx30
Aire hechicerox30

stage 6 Piedra de los elementos
Catalizador alquímicox350
Añublovilx60
Fuego hechicerox60

TOTAL:
Catalizador alquímicox835
Aire hechicerox35
Tierra hechicerax15
Agua hechicerax15
Fuego hechicerox75
Sangre salvajex45
Añublovilx90

Comentario de cephadex

The recipe for upgrading this and the other stones is obtained from the herb trader who sometimes comes by your garrison.

Comentario de kaynen

Ive always wondered why that 40% extra from healing and from heal potions is more like 4%.

Been like that since BC.

if you dont agree just look at a 70k potion and itll only go up by 2k instead of 26 - 30k. I thought the heal itself might proc correctly but even after test proc'ing its only a 2k buff.>>>Shaman healing and potions.

With taking mastery away for versatility and the 4% heal buff... Sorry all but save the mats or make gold selling the item instead<<Thats my opinion.

Comentario de tonydizzle

The value of having the versatility on this trinket shines for the myriad of specs that prefer anything over crit (the proc of choice for the DMF trinkets). For instance, Frost DKs always value versatility over crit (anything over crit really), and the DMF strength trink has a crit proc, so this would be much better having the 2% versatility (or +2% damage) with a large strength proc. I'm not saying this is the best trinket in the game or anything (far from it), but for a crafted 685 trink, it's better than the DMF ones for anyone that doesn't like crit much.

Also, to anyone curious about the healing from a Healing Tonic with this equipped, I just tested it and the results agreed with the results others had from a ways back (patch 6.1.2). I was healed for over 100k as opposed to what others have reported in the recent past.

Comentario de Downhitted

As of patch 6.2 all the Master crafted items cannot be un-soulbound by upgrading them.
Basically just a waste of money if you try to.

Comentario de Tequima

I noticed this is selling for c59K on my server in 9.0 Shadowlands. Now this may be just someone chancing it, as the sale rate is 0.07 per day.

On the other hand, is Draewind's (healer) comment still valid in 9.0, albeit with squished numbers? Does this mean someone thinks it is useful in the 35-39 bracket?

"This trinket will increase your healing or damage by 2.04% and decrease your "damage taken" by 1.02%. It no longer requires Alchemy to wear. It is nice to have a Healing Tonic heal for 100k (instead of about 70k)."

Comentario de nookleptic

I have been working through the Draenor Alchemy recipes. It looks like Stages 5 & 6 Trinket recipes no longer exist.

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+7 Versatilidad

Equipar: Cuando sanas o infliges daño tienes la probabilidad de aumentar tu fuerza, agilidad o intelecto 25 p. durante 15 sec. Siempre se elige la estadística más elevada. (Probabilidad de que accione: 35%, 55s de reutilización)
Equipar: Aumenta el efecto de las pociones de sanación y maná en su portador en un 40%. Este efecto no se acumula.
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