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Comentario de 115159

this along with this are BiS for assassinate rogues who are close/near expertise and spell hit cap before raiding

Comentario de malrion

Im so going to get flamed for saying this but... this is actually a really good avoidance trinket for tanks
It adds allot of block(or absorbs/heals for dk's and druids) through its mastery and the agi stack just provides another continuous 1% dodge in a fight. (and no i didn't steal this of anyone and think that anyone rolling need on this over a dps should be shot)

Comentario de wastedtime

Hunters be aware, Cobra Shot and Steady Shot do not proc the stacking effect of this trinket.

Comentario de 749936

1. Yes this trinket can be useful to a tank, however I believe that any dps class that would gem agility should be given priority on the roll. Why you ask?

Because they will quite obviously benefit from it more. Unless your class actively gems for the stat on the item you're rolling for, you should give the class that does the priority. You have other options as a tank, regardless of whether or not they've actually dropped for you. It may take 20 runs of the same dungeon before Leaden Despair drops (granted that sucks, considering Ozruk), but that's just part of the game. So please, please let the dps roll on this first.

Comentario de 723744

This trinket procs from Sap, so you can stack it up to 10 times before fighting a patrol.

Sure, it doesn't take more than five seconds to stack up to ten, but hell, it's not like you have something better to do after you have pickpocketed every single mob while the tank is afk'ing.

Comentario de KirilMKD

Is it me or items just don't drop for me including this trinket.

On the list of items not dropping i would add with love:
- BRD 3th boss dager
- DM Last boss dager
- Trown from Halls
- Trinket from first boss Deepholm

Solution: Reputation Dager Tol Barad, Valor points trinket, and AH 25k gold for epiq trown :)

Comentario de Khazi

can you use this and the nh version at the same time?

Comentario de 439762

This might be great for the druid tank bears and all that but according to Elitest Jerks it is still pre-raid BiS for Assassination rogues:

http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t110134-assassination_guide_cata/#Gear

I know that EJ isn't the hear all say all in the end but the info they post does help a bunch. I'd be bummed if a bear won this over my rogue, just sayin'. But at the same time if it's an alt rogue that doesn't raid, doesn't need this that much, some trinkets out there have better burst, seems like there might be better trinkets for just dungeons and some pvp.

I'm not sure how the Wow-head score for stat weighing works but it seems a little buggy to me:

http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=qu=2:3:4:5:6;sl=12;minle=346;maxrl=85;ub=4;cr=123;crs=3;crv=0;gm=4;wt=134:21:119:170:103:117:96;wtv=100:100:67:50:46:42:35

Spell power trinkets above this? :S Hope it gets fixed!

Comentario de 597856

okay, i may just not be getting this right, but does this give a permanent 340 agility on long fights, basically, or would something like unsolvable riddle be better? or does the constant 340 agility provide a constant stream of agility that is better than 20 seconds worth of 1605 agility?

Comentario de 318880

What's going on?
Wowhead is saying this trinket has a 191% drop rate.

Comentario de 317684

I ran Lost City on my rogue and have been gunning for this trink since cata hit. I lost the roll to a warrior, which upset me... now that I think about it, however, is this a viable trinket for tanking? Mastery is a nice stat for most if not all tanking classes at this time. I'm wondering if the solid 340 agi while in combat for the extra dodge is worth it? Can a tank comment on this?

Comentario de 25685

I have been using this along with Piedra de alquimista de mercurio, for my DPS set. This seems better than even level 359 agility trinkets, which only have 321 agility vs. the effectively 340 agi on this. Yes, they have procs that might be better than 285 mastery for kitty DPS, but most of those procs seem about equivalent to this.

I have been using Piedra de alquimista vinculavida and Corazón de trueno for my bear set, but I'm not sure if the avoidance and dmg reduction from the mastery on this might not be better in some cases. In either case this trink certainly seems OP for its level.

Comentario de Tioproza

As a mut rogue, i've been doin raids, and got Esencia del ciclón, cause no one else needed it (i was kinda afk for the rolls), at first i was very happy, cause i was usin it with fluid death, but then i noticed my dps was lower than it was with Tia's Grace, then i checked their stats:

Tia's - Essence
285 - 0 - mastery
340* - 321 - agility
0 - 1926** - critical

*- as a mut rogue, i never stay 15 secs without hittin stuff unless i'm dead, so that's a perma 340+ ag.
**- 1926, wow, a lot of crit, not really, in my personal use, that trinket rarely procs (like, procced 5 times in valiona and theralion fight).

So, in my opinion, if you have this and fluid death and u get that trinket drop from halfus, i'd suggest you to keep tia's and fluid.

Note: this is purely my opinion, some of you might not agree with me

Comentario de 411705

Tia's Grace is actually better than several 359 trinkets for hunters and is certainly better than Skardyn's Grace. You were not ninja'd.

Comentario de 734013

I'm an assassination rogue and i've done Tol'Vir twice trying to get this trinket. It dropped both times and both ended up in the hands of a ninja... Paladins do not need this, Miyzaki-Sunstrider(europe). I went for the Llave a la Cámara sin Fin instead since it's less of a pain to get. Some items should be class restricted imho.

Comentario de 618815

This trinket will unfortunately be worth a lot less after patch 4.2 for plate tanks (pallies, DKs and wars)

Dodge: Death Knights, paladins, and warriors no longer receive any bonus to their chance to dodge from Agility. Their base chance to dodge is now a fixed 5%.
Parry: Death Knights, paladins, and warriors now receive 27% of their Strength bonuses as parry rating, up from 25%. This conversion still only applies to Strength above and beyond their base Strength.

From MMOchampion.

Comentario de 168962

According to Rawr, Gracia de Tia is better than Muerte fluida. Of course if you are at hit cap without trinkets and are settled on a second trinket, it is highly worth nothing that 157 mastery rating (Fluid Death with Hit to Mastery reforged) is better than 40 agility the difference of the totaled stacked buffs between the two trinkets.

However, the buffs from both trinkets are separate and will stack for a grand total of 720 agility with virtually 100% up time.

Comentario de guatafu

Tia's Grace and Fluid Death are the two BiS trinkets for agility classes pre-heroic raid gear (372).

That being said if you come across a normal raid trinket like Essence of the Cyclone and are missing one or the two of the above, by all means take it, it's still a solid choice and use the time that would've taken farming the other 2 to replace other item that you might need to more urgently.

Comentario de Nariel

Still one of the BiS trinkets for Bear tanks. Period.

In my opinion, Blizz will need to either: (A) Nerf this item directly or (B) Create an identical raid drop with slightly better stats. Until one of these happens, Bears have no reason to give this trinket up.

Comentario de ad3lm0

Is Gracia de Tia better then Bola de Fuego magnética de Ricket for Assassination Rogues?

Comentario de Amagh

A phenomal trinket... i cant remember the last time an item from Heroic dungeons is besting raid level trinkets.

Using this and Fluid death on my hunter 'till i can get my hands on This beauty
Also does anyone know if the +10% agility survival hunters gain affect this?

Comentario de DarkerFalz

Would this be better than the magnetic fireball for hunters?
I already have Fluid Death from jp.

Comentario de 864419

How is this item for enhance shamans? I got it on my resto offspec since noone else wanted it and have been weighing it against the key, but I'm guessing bonus agility on every hit beats bonus agility chance per hit every day?

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