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Comentario de lazaro

Primero hay que pillar las Esencias de hielo(5) q las tiran los Aparecidos Fragiles de 70,60 y despues hay que ir a 75,63 y alli, encima de la chatarra ardiente, utilizar las esencias de hielo. Finalmente las recoges los Fragmentos de hierro congelados del suelo.

Comentario de Boxofbeer

Caliente y frío http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgf0tslmPWM

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Comentario de Almarsguides

The Smoldering Scraps can be found where you hopped on Snori's Back and threw snowballs at the seething Revenants.

Comentario de draal

You get Essence of Ice from Brittle Revenants at Frostfield Lake.

Comentario de Snudge

Essence of Ice stacks per 5, ~~to a max of 10 you can carry with you~~, it's no use to carry more then 5-6 with you. They dissapear after handing in the quest(See replies).

The Smoldering Scraps are located at Fjorn's anvil. Don't stand too close when using the Essence, they sometimes won't work.

Comentario de distomos

Stand directly on the Smoldering Scraps or they will not freeze. You must literally be on top of them. If you're not, you will find that it will "consume" your Essence of Ice but they will not become frozen.

Comentario de Bury

Wowhead claims that this quest requires level 79, but I was able to pick it up and complete it at level 78.

Comentario de Scritty

This quest comes with the hilarious experience of the opposite faction sitting on a flying mount over Fjorn's Anvil then jumping off and CCing you as soon as you freeze a scrap. Yes, they're lootable by anyone.

Comentario de lormus

Carefully check if you are in combat before using your essences.
Charge is consumed but nothing happens in combat.

Comentario de Hoboonaparkbench

Had this happen also, what a retarded bug.

Comentario de Eminence

hmm using the essence of ice, seems to not work, if you target something when you cast it. ..
works fine just standing in front of the small cone thingie, cast the essence, loot the small cone, like on the picture

completing this quest was btw needed for me to procede with the chain quest they have (since it requires friendly reputation):)

Comentario de Wolfey

Stand right on top of the smoldering scrap. If you are slightly off of it, nothing will happen. 75,63

Comentario de Caesar86

This is correct, If you stand on top on them it will work.

Tho for a friend of mine, it did bug even if he was out of combat and on top of it.

Hotfix PLIX

Comentario de Nubtrain

Even lower, I got mine at lv77

Comentario de ozweepay

Already seeing problems with this quest: it will be done by all high-end raiders (for shoulder enchants available via Sons of Hodir rep only). Gathering the Essence of Ice is the usual mob-tag race (sigh...) but worse, after you freeze a Smoldering Scrap anyone can grab it.

I'm seeing instances where (usually opposite-faction) characters are shamelessly waiting by a scrap to channeling it once someone nearby freezes it. Much /spitting ensues.

A frozen scrap should be lootable only by the person who freezes it... fix please?

Comentario de osuracnaes

Just to clarify - by Fjorn's Anvil, the quest means the subzone called Fjorn's Anvil, not the anvil you get the quest from. I thought the scraps would spawn around the actual anvil in Dun Niffelem.... hehehe.

Comentario de tyknee

For those still unsure of where the scraps are...

There are two locations refered to as "Fjorn's Anvil". The first is the actual location of the anvil at this point, which is in the Son's of Hodir "city", Dun Niffelem.

The other location is where the anvil previously was prior to doing the last 2-3 quests that lead up to this quest, which is the spot of "lava earth" that is east of Dun Niffelem. If you look on the map you'll see a black spot, that is it. Your minimap "subzone" will say "Fjorn's Anvil" still even though it's no longer there.

One thing about the scraps, they look like little mini volcanos, and at least on my screen had smoke comming out of the top. There are pretty easy to spot in the snow around the anvil and up the path to the lake, and are pretty hard to see right in the "lava earth" area, but still can be found there.

Comentario de Huntered

Obviously a reference to Katy Perry.

/jk

Comentario de Beltane

This is available once you are neutral with the Sons of Hodir.

Comentario de Taurenia

Make sure you dismount before you use the quest item too. It will consume one but nothing happens.

Comentario de Guilt

Just to warn you, Essence of Ice have a TERRIBLE drop rate, have killed more than 40 mobs without seeing ONE drop yet.

Comentario de afdafg

Oh! Thank you! i could have used years on this quest

Comentario de wowhedrox

quest name reference to Katy Perrys song Hot n' cold, maybe? :P

Comentario de Farfetch

Couple of things to add

1) Watch where your shard goes, I have been stood next to the metal in spots I believe now are bugged, having used the shard it flew some distance to a nearby lump rather than the close one thus running the risk of losing the metal. I have found the bugged ones consume a shard but do not freeze.
2) Drop rate for the shard is around 45%

Comentario de tansis

Be aware that the Seething Revenant do not drop the Essence of Ice by the Fjorn anvil, only the Brittle Revenants mentioned above do.

Comentario de Sly99

This is the quest completed the most times every day since the 9th of December according to:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/toplist/index.html?en,

Comentario de Boagreas

I have done this quest once, but it is not available to me as a daily. Do i need to be revered like some of the other daily quests?

Comentario de Tawerner

Could this be a reference to "Katy Perry - Hot and Cold"? :)

Comentario de Cityhunter0505

The Sons of Hodir daily quests:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dXZKG-LbBo

Contains all daily quests from friendly to exalted and the repeatable quests. =)

Comentario de Fatoftheland

Nope. It's probably bad(?) luck since it was the first one i got. At Neutral.

Comentario de Phazz

A (hopefully) CLEARER GUIDE:

From the questgiver, exit East (up the camp's slope) to the frozen lake, Frostfield Lake. There, kill Brittle Revenant and loot Essence of Ice until you have 5.
Then, head farther East (maybe South-East) toward where Fjorn's Anvil used to be.
On the path leading to the anvil, look for tiny black things with smoke coming up from them. They are easier to spot in the snow. Get near one, use an Essence of Ice, then right-click loot the metal scrap. Do this until you have 5.
Go back west to where the anvil actually is and turn it in. Yay.

Kudos to posters below who supplied the bulk of this information.

Comentario de Daibaw

I expect blizz to make changes to SoH quest zones, just like what they did to the ravagers in Netherwing mine.

Comentario de pepperspray1991

This quest name better not be a reference to that horrible song by Katy Perry

Comentario de uigrad

This daily quest is the most commonly completed quest in the game.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/toplist/index.html?en,questcomplete

Comentario de irelance

You change your mind
Like a girl changes clothes
Yeah, you PMS like a &*!@#
I would know

And you always think
Always speak cryptically
I should know
That you're no good for me

'Cause you're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down
You're wrong when it's right
It's black and it's white
We fight, we break up
We kiss, we make up

You, you don't really wanna stay, no
You, but you don't really wanna go, oh

'Cause you're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down

We used to be just like twins, so in sync
The same energy now's a dead battery
Used to laugh 'bout nothing
Now you're plain boring
I should know
That you're not gonna change

'Cause you're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down
You're wrong when it's right
It's black and it's white
We fight, we break up
We kiss, we make up

You, you don't really wanna stay, no
You, but you don't really wanna go, oh

You're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down

Someone call the doctor
Got a case of a love bipolar
Stuck on a rollercoaster
Can't get off this ride

You change your mind
Like a girl changes clothes

'Cause you're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down
You're wrong when it's right
It's black and it's white
We fight, we break up
We kiss, we make up

'Cause you're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down
You're wrong when it's right
It's black and it's white
We fight, we break up
We kiss, we make up

You, you don't really wanna stay, no
You, but you don't really wanna go, oh

You're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down, down, down, down...

Comentario de notwafle

Yeah, I'm sure Blizzard never would have come up with a name like "Hot and Cold" for a quest involving fire and ice if it weren't for Katy Perry.

Comentario de Thebarron

In 3.0.8 the opening time was changed to 1 second. Not a perfect fix, but it helps.

Comentario de Ryd3n

Maybe a handy tip for people doing this in the more busy hours of the day:
At the place where the anvil used to be (before the Hodir quests) where the flames are, there are smoldering scraps too. They are much less visible and people tend to overlook them.

Comentario de lophorn

They look like a black plate with a spike facing skywards on them and can be really hard to spot on the black ground. The easiest way to find them, I found, is to let the Essence of Ice do the searching for you: Spam their use ability and, if you're within about 10 yards of a Smouldering thing, it'll launch itself towards it. Just follow it's trajectory and pick up your finished Frozen Iron Scrap.

Comentario de NyhmFan

Kate Perry with the song Hot and Cold. Scorch!

Comentario de jilf

as a druid you can gather the scraps up in flight form, so you might want to use this macro:

/use Essence of Ice
/cast Swift Flight Form

so you dont leave your flight form when gathering these.
especially useful if players of the opposing faction are around.

and if you are a lazy druid, dont gather the essences and just wait for enemy players to freeze the scraps, dive in and gather them up before they can.

Comentario de Dancewhore

'True dat'*

Foolish Mortal.

Comentario de Alandra

If you're a holy priest doing this, the combination of mace stun and the spell lock with 5 second lockout shield slam thing they do can be very annoying.

The most effective way to kill them, assuming you're doing it at a quiet time, is to grab about 4 of them and just holy nova them down.

Comentario de Aceed

I do believe that it is. My reasoning? The quest is tideous and very %^&*ing annoying, and something you have to stick up with every day.
nuff said

Comentario de Checksumfail

Hot AND cold, Hot AND Cold, and the combination of the two I like to call 'Hold'

Okay so probably not a reference but I think of it every time I see this in my quest log.

Comentario de Kalcros

This is the quest help if you need it

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-LhyAVzDBI

very detailed vid ... for a simple quest o.o

Comentario de Kepo

Remember that when you use Essence of Ice it doesn't pick the closest one. I just used one and presumed that it would go to the one just about 3 yards in front me, but it went to other one what was more than 5 yards behind me.

Comentario de WoWkevin

Reminds me to much on Kate Perry's anoying song.
Rename the quest giver " Kate Parry".
Your hot and your cold.

Comentario de Limiter

Cause you're hot then you're cold...

Comentario de Zefyron

no1 mentioned that this is a refference to the song "Hot and Cold" -_-

Comentario de musicalrpg

damn iditots.. all have something to say, and no one has cords.

Comentario de Farfetch

The drop rate for the Essence of Ice is around 31% so you'll need to kill 15 each time on average.

In addition, the mobs - Brittle Revenants - can be mined (including those that others have tagged (so long as they looted)). They drop Geodesic Fragments (4g 50s per 20) every time and around 29% of the time they drop Crystallized Earth (this is on average as they sometimes drop 2 so it messes up the drop rate per mob).

This is from data from 3 characters working through to exalted (248 drops from 817 kills).

Comentario de Bloodstream

Maybe an unwanted reference from Blizzard to the song of Kate Perry, "Hot n Cold".

Comentario de personwithaname

I dont think this was said yet .. but you don't have to necessarily have to kill 5 seething revenant.. you can use more than one essence of ice on one seething reveant corpse

Comentario de Ergates

Casters, be aware that the frost mobs do interrupt with an annoying 5 second spell lock. You may find yourself re-discovering the joys of wanding. It's advisable to nuke them down as fast as possible before they get into melee range, or make use of any DOTs.

Also the two areas for the quest seem to be very heavily farmed, pretty much 24/7. The fire area aint such a big issue, and can even work in your favour (less mobs to fight between you and the Smouldering Scraps), but you may find yourself competing for respawns in the ice area.

I've come across some very aggressive players in this place, who do everything they can to tag the mobs before you. I've seen people actually in combat with two mobs at once, who, as soon as they notice you closing in on a mob, try and race you to to it, and tag that as well, even as you are casting a spell!

Don't be one of these selfish types; the mobs respawn real quick, and a bit of patience, consideration and courtesy go a long way.

Comentario de Tantojutsu

I'm a rogue. I noticed if I use the pick-axe then immediately stealth, no dwarf mobs appear, but I still get eyes. Probably a glitch so exploit it while you can!

Comentario de Coopen

My tip while you are doing this quest is to save the Crystallized Earth.
I also kill some Seething Revenants for Crystallized Fire. You get a nice amount on AH for them =)
Easy grinding meanwhile you are doing your dailies

Comentario de katyperry

Cause you're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in then you're out
You're up then you're down
You're wrong when it's right
It's black and it's white
We fight, we break up
We kiss, we make up

Comentario de swishasweet

Idk, just not dropping for me, have quest logged and none in bags :(

Comentario de lltomohikoll

When you use Essence, make sure that no Ninja no ganker there.

Because Frozen iron is lootable by everyone who is on the quest.

Comentario de Gnostik

Having the same problem. This quest can be buggy as hell.

I had 5 essences. Successfully cooled and gathered one smoldering scrap. Then cooled another but couldn't pick it up afterwards. (There was no gear when I moused over.) Did this 4 more times until I used up all my essences, couldn't pick up any of the scraps even though they had cooled.

So I went to farm some more essences, and now they wouldn't drop. "I could only loot 5," I thought, "for the quest." So I abandoned the quest and went back to killing revenants.

Now the essences won't drop at all. I've killed like 50 revenants.

Frustrating to say the least.

Comentario de indifromspace

I created a map for a quick visual guide for the three dailies (Blowing Hodir's Horn, Polishing the Helm and Hot and Cold). The quest locations are marked along with the waypoint coordinates. A short quest description is included.

Comentario de Zeta

Whenever you stand in front of a scrap and use the essence, waiting to loot straight away, THE SYSTEM ALWAYS CHOOSE TO FREEZE ANOTHER SCRAP 20 YD AWAY FROM YOU.

Comentario de Roxxy

A Youtube video of the quest.

Comentario de Dowscar

As of 3.3, the requirement seems to be 6 scraps instead of 5.

Comentario de Jerodast

Annoyingly for those of us constantly wishing for more bag space, the Essences of Ice only stack to 5. I suspect this is a bug, either that or the switch to 6 scraps was an accident.

Comentario de mg785

This quest awards 455 Reputation with the Sons of Hodir as of Patch 3.3.

Source: Sons of Hodir Dailies

Comentario de Nordigo

Interesting to note, now with the 100% droprate, this is completable before the Katy Perry song has played out :P

Comentario de amnesiac

kill Brittle Revenants around 70.60 and loot 6 * Essences of Ice
then go to 74.63 and use Essence of Fires on Smoldering Scraps.

Comentario de ElPsychochillero

why the hell would they put a cd on quest items? even if its only 10 seconds its forking annoying!

Comentario de memento00

i abandond the quest how can i get it back

Comentario de FixManTx

Since I did these dozens of times per 80 during WotLK they made it require 6 up from 5 Essence of Ice but made it 100% drop rate as others have said. They also added a several second CD on the frozen iron scrap which used to be instant. The annoying bit of the ice shards targeting a piece of slag other than the one you're standing next to is still there though. Blizzard's way of keeping things interesting, I guess. Back when everybody was doing this sometimes that meant another player could loot "your" FIS and you would have to go kill another revenant or 2 in order to complete the quest.

Comentario de Boxofbeer

Hot and Cold http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgf0tslmPWM

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Caliente y frío

Ve al Lago Campo de Escarcha, mata a los aparecidos frágiles que hay allí y utiliza la Esencia de Hielo en la chatarra ardiente en el Yunque de Fjorn. Después deberás recoger 6 de los fragmentos de hierro congelado y volver junto al Yunque de Fjorn en Dun Niffelem.

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Mientras miras al yunque revives tus logros recientes, en particular los que han hecho que este artefacto llegue aquí.

De repente se te ocurre que aún quedan cosas por hacer. Al este el paisaje está cubierto de chatarra ardiente, restos de la batalla que tuvo lugar allí.

Si se pudieran enfriar y recoger de alguna forma, los gigantes de escarcha tendrían un abundante suministro de metal y la región quedaría libre de esos restos de la guerra.

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