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Baine War Campaign and Player Choice in Patch 8.2 - Broadcast Text (Spoilers)
17/04/2019 a las 20:35
In Patch 8.2, the War Campaign will reach a climax as the fate of Baine Bloodhoof, arrested in Patch 8.1.5 and chained in Orgrimmar, is addressed. Learn what happens in this scenario, along with a new choice players can make while questing.
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Plot Summary of Broadcast Text
On the Alliance side, Anduin asks Jaina to help rescue Baine, and she gladly agrees as Baine risked his life to return Derek Proudmoore to her. As the mission continues, the Alliance receives unexpected help from Saurfang and Thrall, absent since early Legion. Jaina and Shaw are also ambushed by the Sunreavers, who hold Jaina accountable for killing innocents in the Purge of Dalaran in Mists of Pandaria.
On the Horde side, Lor'themar receives a vision from a Tauren Shaman of Baine's execution, and also decides to help free Baine. He talks about sending word to allies, so perhaps he knew about Saurfang and Thrall's involvement in advance.
Anduin forged a partnership with Saurfang in the "Lost Honor" cinematic, but it appears to mostly be kept a secret for now, as many characters express surprise when they run into others also helping to rescue Saurfang. For example, both Lor'themar and Genn are shocked that the Alliance showed up to help Saurfang and Thrall...but Anduin was the one who freed Saurfang. As
Anduin and Baine
were good friends, holding each other in respect, it makes sense for Anduin to organize a rescue mission.
Unfortunately for Anduin, Sylvanas may already know of his secret allegiance as she sends members of the Horde to ambush Jaina, Saurfang, Shaw, and Thrall in Baine's prison. The element of
continues as the player can report Lor'themar's loyalty to Nathanos or not.
After helping Baine escape, Jaina and Lor'themar have parallel separate conversations that they should pause their direct efforts fighting the faction conflict to fight Azshara--they'd be too weakened to fight her otherwise. Jaina believes this will buy time for Saurfang's rebellion to take root and that Teldrassil still deserves justice. Lor'themar needs more convincing as he remembers the murder of his people in Dalaran at the hands of Jaina, but Thalyssra reminds him that the Alliance and Horde worked together in Suramar and have put differences aside to fight greater foes.
Much later, after the battle with Azshara, Lor'themar ultimately realizes that the war needs to end, and that there will never be peace for as long as Sylvanas holds Orgrimmar. He agrees to stand with Saurfang and Thrall, hoping he has the support of his people.
Plans to Free Baine
Anduin asks Jaina for aid:
Anduin: Jaina, $p. We are faced with a dire situation.
Anduin: Our spies report that the Banshee plans to execute Baine Bloodhoof.
Anduin: We must rescue him at once. I know what I ask of you. To infiltrate Orgrimmar--
Jaina: I'll do it.
Anduin: Are you certain? It's an immense risk.
Jaina: Baine defied his warchief by returning Derek to us. He's risked more than anyone.
Jaina: I know how hard it is to offer an open hand when the rest of your people have drawn swords.
Jaina: If Baine dies, then the last of the Horde's honor dies with him, murdered by the Banshee Queen.
Jaina: We will have lost any hope of ending this war peacefully. And peace is worth the risk.
Anduin: Thank you, Jaina. There isn't much time, so make haste. May the Light be with you all.
Jaina reflects on Baine:
He returned my brother, yes, but this is not the first time he has reached across all that divides us. I know how hard it is to extend a hand when everyone else has drawn swords. I have even been the one with the weapon.
Baine has always tried to act with honor. He has shown me a flicker still exists in the Horde. If he dies, then whatever is left within the Horde will die with him, killed by the Banshee as surely as she slaughtered the innocents of Teldrassil.
There is a time and place for weapons, but... We also need words. I would rather speak with one such as Baine.
On the Horde side, Spiritwalker Ussoh has a disturbing vision, shared with Lor'themar:
Spiritwalker Ussoh: My vision was of Baine. He was imprisoned alone, encircled by enemies.
Spiritwalker Ussoh: A figure emerged from the shadows. The warchief.
Spiritwalker Ussoh: She gave the word, and Baine... was executed.
Spiritwalker Ussoh: The spirits whisper that he will be slain before the next sunrise.
Lor'themar: So we are at a crossroads once again, and we have little time to make our choice.
Lor'themar: Were it not for the Horde, the remaining sin'dorei might have died out against the Scourge.
Lor'themar: Garrosh nearly severed the bond between us, but in the end it held strong.
Lor'themar: Now that bond is threatened by another warchief... one whom I once knew well.
Lor'themar: My people will not abandon the Horde, nor will we stand idle as it is destroyed from within.
Lor'themar: Rendezvous with our allies and rescue Baine. We will deal with the consequences as they come.
Jaina and Shaw, along with Saurfang and Thrall, travel through Orgrimmar to find Baine.
Baine Bloodhoof does not have much time. If we do not act, he will be executed.
Shaw: Baine is being held deep beneath Orgrimmar. This way.
Jaina: Can you get the gate open?
Shaw: This is a tricky one. The Horde's locksmiths must be learning from the Zandalari.
Jaina: I imagine the locks securing Baine are even more advanced.
Shaw: If I can break into Rastakhan's treasury, I can handle Bloodhoof's chains.
Shaw: Give me a moment to open the gate.
Jaina: Someone's on the other side.
Shaw: I'll need time. $p, you and Lady Jaina keep those Horde thugs at bay.
Jaina: Stand fast! More are coming!
Shaw: Damn. They'll sound the alarm when they thaw.
Jaina: Baine might not have that long. Come on!
Saurfang and Thrall make their way through the city with a stealth totem granted by Rokhan.
"With Saurfang branded a traitor by Sylvanas, the guards will attack us on sight. So we will avoid their notice.
Rokhan's totem will grant us stealth for a limited time and even so wary guards may spot us, but I do not wish to leave a trail of bodies in our wake. They are still part of the Horde."
We must keep moving. Baine's time grows short.
There is much more activity going on here than I had expected and Rokhan's totem will only work for so long. We need some way to increase our odds of remaining undetected.
Perhaps I can provide a distraction? I can keep them busy with a duel.
I have not been down here since we faced Garrosh.
Vol'jin reopened these halls to provide shelter when the Legion invaded.
Now, Sylvanas uses them to train her elite soldiers and build her Azerite weapons.
Jaina and Shaw also pass by the weaponry:
This must be where they develop new Azerite weapons.
Which gives us a chance to deplete the Horde's arsenal. We should take it.
Destroy the mechs, but do not lose sight of our mission.
Eventually, everyone meets up outside Baine's chamber. Saurfang seems unhappy with the Alliance's choice to kill King Rastakhan.
Saurfang: I did not expect the Alliance to be here.
Shaw: Not the first time we've had to move against a corrupt warchief.
Saurfang: Or a sovereign king. Slain in his own home.
Thrall: Focus on the task at hand. Baine's time grows short.
Shaw: A home that still stands. Can you say the same for Teldrassil?
Jaina: That is enough! We are not here to fight each other.
We then run into the Black Bride, whom you may remember as an old Arathi Basin Battlemaster:
Shaw: Baine should be just ahead.
Saurfang: It seems we must get past her, first.
The Black Bride: Halt! This area is off limits!
Saurfang: We do not want trouble--
The Black Bride: That's Saurfang! Kill the traitors!
Helping Baine Escape
We then find Baine, chained up in Orgrimmar. The broadcast text for this part is interesting, as we found two alternate versions. Both stories play out the same, but the dialogue is different--perhaps the Alliance and Horde receive different versions, similar to the varying dialogue for the Rastakhan encounter.
Baine is wary of us freeing him, as Sylvanas was expecting us and we're falling into her trap. Sunreavers surround us, seeking revenge on Jaina for the Purge of Dalaran. However, we are able to escape.
Baine: Thrall? Saurfang? Lady Jaina? Oh, no.
Saurfang: Baine my friend, we will get you out of here. The Alliance has agreed to help us.
Baine: You don't understand. She knew you were coming...
Magister Hathorel: Ah. Right on schedule as Sylvanas knew you would be.
Jaina: We do not wish to end any more lives. Let us take Baine and go.
Magister Hathorel: No, Traitor. Lady Proudmoore. Do you remember me?
Magister Hathorel: I am Magister Hathorel, one of the many innocent Sunreaver mages you sicced your Silver Covenant dogs upon.
Jaina: There was more violence than I had wished, but it was the Sunreavers who betrayed us, first.
Magister Hathorel: A few who were following the orders of their lawful Warchief. As I do now.
Jaina: I will hold the barrier. Kill them!
Baine: Th--Thrall? Jaina?
Shaw: These chains are warded against magic. I'll need time to pick the lock.
Saurfang: This feels wrong. Sylvanas must have known we were coming.
Magister Hathorel: Indeed she did, traitor. You and Lady Proudmoore.
Jaina: I have no quarrel with you.
Magister Hathorel: Have you forgotten the purge of Dalaran, murderer? Today, the Sunreavers will be avenged.
Jaina: Then your vendetta is with me, and me alone!
Magister Hathorel: No! You will watch your friends die--just as I did!
Magister Hathorel: Rangers! Kill them all! FOR THE SUNREAVERS!
After the Sunreaver attack is handled, we plan an escape:
We will need an escape route once Baine is free.
I can teleport us out, but not while the inhibitor crystals are active.
Then we must destroy them. Go, $p!
Player Choice - Telling Nathanos
Players have a choice to tell Nathanos about the plot to save Baine. Previously in
Battle for Azeroth
, there are Horde player choices to save Saurfang and help Baine rescue Derek Proudmoore.
Attempting to save Baine without informing Nathanos will be remembered. Are you certain you wish to continue?
"<You whisper to Lenara>
The traitor, Saurfang, is here with Thrall. They mean to free Baine."
So Lor'themar shows his true colors at last.
A pity he has sided with Baine, but I am not entirely surprised. This is not his first betrayal.
Play along for now. I'll send word ahead. These traitors are in for a surprise once they reach Bloodhoof.
After the Escape - Alliance
Jaina explains to Shandris Feathermoon and Genn why she wants to work with the Horde to fight Azshara. However, she still wants justice for Teldrassil:
Genn: Good to have you back, Jaina. Why did King Anduin summon you?
Jaina: Sylvanas ordered the execution of Baine Bloodhoof. Anduin sent us into Orgrimmar to rescue him.
Genn: You risked your lives to save a leader of the Horde?!
Jaina: After what he did for Derek, I felt I owed him a debt. We received some unexpected help from Saurfang... and Thrall.
Shandris: You were fortunate that you were not betrayed. Presenting your heads might have regained their warchief's favor.
Jaina: We had a common enemy. Sylvanas wanted us at each other's throats. Perhaps that's what Azshara wants, too.
Genn: Hold on... Are you suggesting we lay down our arms and fight beside them? After all they've done?!
Jaina: No. Merely that we direct our efforts against Azshara instead of the Horde. That could buy time for Saurfang's rebellion to take root.
Jaina: There must be vengeance for Teldrassil. But if Azshara is not stopped, she will unleash her master upon the world.
Genn: Very well. We will focus on defeating the naga queen. But if the Horde turns against us, they will answer for it.
After the Escape - Horde
Thalyssra convinces Lor'themar to put differences with the Alliance aside to fight Azshara:
Lor'themar: Proudmoore and Shaw risked their lives to rescue Baine? Unexpected.
Thalyssra: That animosity only benefits Azshara. Her power is considerable. Divided, we are no match for her--or the master she serves.
Lor'themar: Cooperation between our sides has been the exception, not the rule. More often, we are at each other's throats.
Thalyssra: Is it? Not long ago, Alliance and Horde fought together to liberate Suramar from the Legion.
Lor'themar: Sylvanas has the loyalty of the people. So long as she is warchief, this war will rage within their hearts. We cannot stop it.
Thalyssra: Perhaps we do not need to. It might be enough to direct our attacks against Azshara rather than the Alliance.
Lor'themar: That plan would infuriate Blightcaller... which makes me like it all the more. Hmm... "It stops when you turn from one another and walk away..."
Thalyssra: Yes. We also have a history of setting differences aside to fight greater foes.
Lor'themar: A lesson once taught to Jaina Proudmoore and me. Your counsel is wise, Thalyssra. Our focus must be on ending Azshara's reign.
Thalyssra: A truce then? We fight Azshara here, not one another.
Lor'themar: But if the Alliance undermines our efforts, the flames of war will rise again.
Nathanos is unaware that Lor'themar and Thalyssra want to work with the Alliance:
Saurfang, Thrall, the Alliance... it is vexing to know our quarry escaped. But we must trust in the warchief's plan.
Soon your loyalty will face an even greater test. I do hope you prove worthy of the Dark Lady's favor.
I have been recalled to Orgrimmar. Remain in Nazjatar. Keep playing along with these traitorous vipers... until you are summoned.
After defeating Azshara:
Lor'themar: Our victory rings hollow. Azshara's master will rise. Nothing can stop that now.
Jaina: For all her lies, Priscilla Ashvane spoke one truth. The war between the Alliance and Horde has kept us distracted. Divided, we have no hope against N'Zoth.
Lor'themar: We may have found common cause here in Nazjatar, but the battle still rages beyond these waters. So long as Sylvanas holds Orgrimmar, there can be no lasting peace.
Jaina: The war needs to end, Lor'themar. You know this to be true.
Lor'themar: I had hoped that reason would prevail. But the time has come to finish this.
Lor'themar: I will tell my people what transpired here. Of how Azshara fell because we stood together. Of the threat rising from the depths, and all that is at stake if we should fail.
Lor'themar: Then I will take my place beside Saurfang and Thrall, and pray that the sin'dorei stand with me.
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