Man. I'm going to be salty if I have to play redside just to have my foxes. But it'll be worth it if it means they're playable.
Reading all this datamined dialogue has got me really hyped up for the next patch and the more I see the better, but something really stood out for me and that was the Lorash dialogue and more specifically this here. "The val'kyr hardly had to even offer before I was back on my feet. What else did you expect?" [It really just makes me think, was this an offer made to him in life? I doubt that the feeling of it seems to be made to him after he's died like the Val'kyr are communing with his spirit.. This seems to be implying that people are offered to be risen into undeath and I can't help but think if this is a one time thing, maybe just for Horde troops? Or is it something like for literally everyone? My headcannon is that most if not all people probably accept the bargain if it's a case for everyone because in this sort of afterlife scenario they'd be experiencing that 'oh !@#$ I died I have so much more to do!' and as soon as they come back some of them immediately regret it hence a lot of turn table forsaken. This isn't the first case though the only other similar one I can think of is when Sylvanas did a leap of faith but the Val'kyr saved her after the worst had happened. Am I missing something here? Have there been more occasions like this are people always offered a chance to come back or are most others just forced? I don't really know! Either way I'd love to hear more about this and other peoples opinions, or maybe other cases of the mental/soul situation when the Val'kyr are bringing people back.
the difference between the resurrection of Derek and all the other @#$% Sylvanas has done, this time, all the other Horde Leaders are around. Burning of Teldrassi, only Sylvanas and SaurfangResurrecting the fallen at Undercity, only Sylvanas and SaurfangResurrecting Zelling, Stone and Valentine, only Nathanos, Rexxar and VossNow, every Horde Leader sees with their own eyes and hears what exactly she is planning. Baine, is for a long time, not a fan of SylvanasTalanji is a Zandalari, and they are not fans of necromancyValtrois is new to the Horde so she was not really aware of Sylvanas dealings.The other two are probably Rexxar, Garon, Eitrrig or Lor'Themar.And they all can be unhappy about what they see.BUT, there is a slight sliver of hope things don't turn to a Garrosh 2.0and thats that
I don't want playable Vulpera. Lets hope the alliance gets there "no war" approach right this time, unlike with the Zandalari.
That line we don't know who's from, the one that starts with "War isn't pretty", that sounds like something Garona would say.
I don't get all the hate on Baine lately. He's probably not acting because the horde would break if he took action, which is something that both sides of this horde-war thing would suffer from, both the innocent and the guilty.
is any side supposed to enjoy this faction story? alliance barely does anything and horde has to deal with MoP parallels which is !@#$ty even if the outcome is different
so, renegade forsaken grows
I find it funny how the horde is turning into carebear hippies when they come from a long linie of assassinations, revenge plots and the likes but now that its a undead woman incharge its all "too much" and questionable.I find her plan perfect, res the son, mc the son, son kills family hopefully all of them, the horde can now fight the real enemy N'zoth.Oh and on a personal note I cant wait to kill malf and tyrande ever since I "had" to help those useless chars in val'sharah.
Sorry to say that, but every time I see any spoilers of the upcoming story I just feel tired. I feel tired with the current story, I feel tired thinking of what else they'll come up with... after 9 years of playing I reached the point when I'm like "what now......." whenever they annouce something. I am, mildly saying, dissatisfied with the current state of the story.As for these spoilers... well I am surprised seeing the newly raised undead being like this. There's hope they can do something to Sylvanas' harm. And Baine... maybe finally he'll act against the psycho queen?
I'm confuzzled. Why is THIS everyone's breaking point?After everything that's happened thus far is mind breaking some guy really that bad?Hell the player character on both factions does worse things than this on an hourly basis.
People are forgetting the fact that the Horde is not only about honour, but also loyalty and unity. In the novellas and "Before the Storm" Sylvanas wishes to win the war and come out as the final victor, securing that position for long enough, opposed to Saurfang wishing for a peace, asking him how long will it last.I do disagree with Sylvanas methods, but also Saurfang, who is a great adviser being a veteran of many wars, dropping out because only ONE of the pillars that the Horde stands upon is shattered. War is not honourous, and when it is the question of honour VS survival, which one you would rather pick? Saurfangs wants to win the battle with honour, Sylvanas wants to win the war. I would rather have the whole Kalimdor to the Horde and Eastern Kingdoms to the Alliance (yeah, we have to decide about Silvermoon and places like Booty Bay) than us dying out because we don't use all methods.Since we have no better option, I believe it is unwise of the leaders to not see this and break unity and loyalty themselves.
Also, SYlavans is not Garrosh 2.0. Garrosh kicked everyone except the orcs and goblins out of the Horde simply for not agreeing with them, Sylvanas always gives A CHOICE, and I believe it is very clear. And like I said, she wants to win a war and keep Forsaken safe.