All these people arguing if Blizzard can halfbutt their own lore with Mary Sues and stupidity.....
All the debating and I fail to see the issue. Yes, these are once devoted and living soldiers being given a chance to come back. Most would decline, but some..? There are always those who, given a chance to reconsider under the circumstances, would accept. Elune failed them, their might failed them, and Tyrande failed them. Being broken that way can change one's priorities. When all hope leaves, your home is a pyre, and your best leaves you cold on the ground, to some it is time to change loyalties.
It's a start, but they need to have some of them actually be raised and then immediately turn on you.It should be something like 70% refuse entirely and turn into an angry wisp, 20% accept to be raised and then immediately attack you, and 10% actually join the Forsaken.If it were civilians being raised, I can imagine plenty of them would feel abandoned/betrayed by Tyrande/Elune but these are disciplined soldiers with strong conviction that were willing to give their lives to defend their people. To think that many of them would happily side with the Forsaken, after what the Horde did to their people, is ridiculous.
There is no reason any night elf would be willing to join at all. Would anyone attempting to rationalize this nonsense seriously ever consider signing on with your murderer and the murderers of your friends and family? AND you'd help them kill more of your people? Your people that you are knowingly sacrificing yourself for just minutes before you were raised by the people you are fighting who slaughtered your people, family, friends? Whatever your negative emotions be they grief or rage or whatever, they were caused by the people you are now signing up with. What?A night elf would rather be dead than become a blight upon the land they've loved and defended for over 10k yrs. Besides the very odd night elf who is completely outside of their culture of 10 millennia and is for some reason just as sadistic as the snot-throwing zombies (which is unlikely given that these are soldiers with convictions and a will to protect their people), what measurable number of night elves would they seriously scrounge up for their side without using any mind tricks? This edit makes it much worse because they're still trying to sell the free will narrative. How they think it's believable is beyond me. How the dialogue in this cata silverpine quest ( https://wow.gamepedia.com/No_Escape ) suggests anything close to free will is beyond me. It's flat out insulting they expect players to believe this unbelievable writing. The only way they could salvage this mess is if the risen night elves are planning on a coup, but really I don't have even a crumb of faith left in the writing of this game anymore.
To give an example of why the Night elf stuff is dumb: Remember Sylvanas herself, when she was raised by Arthas she wanted nothing more than to kill him and make him suffer, but she was mind controlled to turn against her people as a banshee.Imagine if the same thing happened back then, Arthas slew her, she was ressed by Arthas as a banshee was willingly immediately turned against her people. It makes no sense no matter how you put it, even if you believe Elune failed you or whatever, why the hell would you turn against your own people and side with the monsters who destroyed your home?
I want to see in the Lore when NE's switched to the other side before I say okay or no way.
What would the price you are willing to pay to live be. Serving my own murderer is one of the lesser things I would do for the sake of existing again. Especially in a world where we have seen what the afterlife is like in the Uuna scenario.We can very easily assume that those like Uuna who can't pass on are stuck in what is likely the Shadowlands haunted for an eternity until they become one of the shadows that haunt others. That is a fate worse than turning on those you once called your people and serving your own murderer.Dear people against this, can you give me a real life example where a person refused to be revived to serve their murderer? No? Then stop saying something that is only possible in fiction is somehow unrealistic or nonsensical, because you can not actually prove that. Plenty have on the other hand bought up multiple times in history where people at the threat of dying would choose to serve their would be murderers, or those who after becoming disillusioned by their previous belief turned on their fellow believers.That in the first place does not discount the chance that some mind control is still taking place and those not raised resist it, so don't get your panties in a bunch.
I want a toy that gives us Bwonsamdi no matter what zone we're in.
Hmmm. So Night Elves are joining Horde. I expect now that orcs following Saurfang will join The Alliance. It's like the whole world turned upside-down! I really hope the next expansion has better writing.
It might be better at this point to start writing off the old WC3 heroes and work on new stories. It feels like whenever a veteran character is involved the story becomes a mess.
Ah, they'll go forward with the "willing" thing... yikes.