WARNING: Major 8.5 lore spoiler. - Anduin learns how to 'rez' the undead. You log into your Forsaken warlock to discover you are now a human mage living in Stormwind fighting for the Alliance. This makes perfect sense. <kappa> funny thought though. :)
I just read the first page were some people came up with BS like "there are RL examples of some members of one community joining their oppressors to live!" or "Why should all Night Elves be able to resist the offer? They are a people like any other and some members will be scum."You totally miss the point.1) This is not RL, this is WoW. Do you honestly believe there is no Orc who would like to fight for the Alliance? No Tauren? No Human who would want to join the Horde? Of course there are. But they CANNOT. Because this is a game and this is how the game works. Nobody cares if a Tauren would like to join the Alliance. They CANNOT. Those are the rules.So when living beings never get the offer...why do dead ones suddenly get it?2) Also, let's assume they only join because they want the chance to live again and don't give a $%^& about the Horde and even HATE them for what they did to them in the first place (which is a reasonable assumption)...what would the moral of a Horde Fighting Force comprised of such fighters be? It would be absolute and utter &*!@. The only way to keep them in check would be constant pressure and threatening. Is this in this storyline? No, it's not.So please, have one or the other. You cannot be total "faction means faction and defecting is IMPOSSIBLE! NOBODY EVEN WANTS TO DEFECT!" everywhere else in the game...and on this one occasion it's sudenly not a problem and totally cool because it is "realistic", yet you then right afterwards refuse to confront the realistic consequences of such a bargain again.The combination of the two narratives is what makes this storyline *!@#.3) The specific Night Elves revived by the Valkyr are not some random civilians that were frightened @#$%less before. They were SOLDIERS who confronted, fought and died to the Horde. They are not cowards. If you can bring yourself to fight to the death in any kind of conflict.....how high is the chance that you, out of all people, then afterwards chose the way of the traitor? It makes absolutely no snese! If the Scourge (not a typo) was raising some civilians here...Night Elves they just murdered who never had to fight to the death before, because they simply had no choice...it would be slightly different. But these are all soldiers who CHOSE DEATH IN BATTLE before. What the &*!@!
I would like other undead playable races. I honestly don’t care what race, just something other than human. If Blizzard wants to use nelfs, fine... as long as they become a playable allied race.
So you think that is ok, NE lost their city and that why many dead NE lost hope and decided to join those who have murdered them?Then why I don't see any Forsaken with broken hope joining the Alliance? Fallowing yours logic, there should be some of them too!So looks like only Night Elves can lose hope, not the Horde? I guess now you Understand that Blizzard does hates NE!
To the people who still don't understand why people are upset that Nelves, even two named ones, willingly sign up to slap their tongue between Sylvanas' cheeks:Imagine the outrage if the Alliance had slaughtered Zekhan's family in cold blood, but after Lordaeron, in spite of all of his talk about the Horde only having each other, he went to the Alliance and became a War Front commander shouting loudly about how all of the Horde must die at his hands.It's incredibly difficult to see your favourite race getting shafted so hard for so long and then suddenly, in spite of what we see of the newly risen in the Horde War Campaign, have them look like cowards and/or traitors who would willingly slaughter their friends and family just because a Val'kyr said so. Regardless of whether or not they "want another chance at life", the whole idea that this is their own decision, that Tyrande's loyal elite force, the Army of the Night, would be totally fine with shifting sides five seconds after having been Vengeful against the Horde is incredibly inconsistent, frustrating and bordering on insulting. This is why people are riled up, this is why people want confirmation that mind control is involved. People are so riled up because "Saurfang conspires with Anduin" even if they barely even talk as confirmed by the cinematic, well, the Alliance actually loses named chars to the Horde.Oh, and if they add undead Nelves as a playable Horde race, resulting in the Horde having more Nelf-related stuff than the Alliance at this point, that'd just be the ultimate middle finger.
Because they feel betrayed by Tyrande or Elune, therefore they want to avenge their loss. It does not make a lot of sense, still.
What if, bare with me.. what if not all of the undead forsaken serve Sylvanas willingly? What if in order to 'control' her population she only has to force a % of the population? Think about when you create a forsaken character in game. You wake up, see other forsaken all serving her and they think it's a good idea. Your thoughts are more 'bandwagon' and you think it's a good idea too for the time being, essentially being brainwashed.
The idea that any Night Elves would one minute be fighting with their comrades and the next minute against them without mind control is just terrible writing. Not plausible in the least. These changes do nothing to fix it, and it seems clear that Blizzard has painted themselves into a corner with no way out since they are locked into this inconsistent plot now.