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Comentario de 609873

en cuanto puedo vender este encantamiento?

Comentario de Ransuke

Unos 400g si tu pones mats...

Comentario de omzke

En mi reino me la vendieron a 1000g :P

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Comentario de 70784

This weapon buff looks very exciting for Warriors, Rogues and Ret Pallys especially. Can't wait! Notice its just a weapon enchant, so potentially a duel welding warrior or rogue will have a 800 attack power proc? Very nice indeed!

Comentario de Athene

Does anyone have any idea how often this proccs, and how long the procc lasts?

Comentario de Zellyn

That's not quite correct. Double Executioner can proc from both weapons, but it merely refreshes the buff. It's a bad idea, yes, but it will give you increased uptime on the armor pen buff.

Comentario de 183787

were is it supposed to drop? how many of these badass recipies are actualy gonna be usable and obtainable by ppl like me who dont have a t6 raid guild lol

Comentario de 69978

This enchant increases attackpower by 400 and lowers armor by 5% for 15 secs, same procrate as mongoose and executioner, double stacks as well for 800 ap and -10%

The glow of this enchant is similar to Savagery(the red bleeding animation, but appears to show stronger on onehanders for some reason).

The effect is a bloodlust sound and the "enrage" animation.

I guess the reason they added the armor debuff is so that tanks cannot gain such a strong buff without being punished:) as well as you'll need to get hurt to berserk!.

And regarding joeythebull's reply: Alot of high end recipes is purchasable by the <Shard Trader> in Dalaran next to the Enchanting Trainer, each of the green recipes costs 4 Dream Shards which is the WotLK equivalent to Large Prismatic Shards and the Blue recipes including this one is sold for 10 Dream Shards.

Edit: Added the 3.0.8 change where the armor penalty was reduced to 5% instead of 25%, this change was mainly introduced due to warriors not benefitting enough from it because of Armored to the Teeth, which increases attackpower by armor value.(##RESPBREAK##)258##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comentario de 168618

anyone know if this is for 1h or 2h weps only?

Comentario de faia

new cookie cutter enchant for PvE and i assume rogue pvp (as if you get a hit it with melee leather will not make a big difference)

Comentario de Lindeman

Better than Massacre? Maybe this on main and Massacre on offhand?

Comentario de Loudnoxious

This seems fairly worthless for warriors, from what I can tell. Or at least not as worthwhile as it would be for other melee classes, since every dps warrior will have Armored to the Teeth. At 70 it was pretty typical to have 10-11k armor which contributed about 160-190 AP, I assume that armor values at 80 will be high enough that the loss of armor from the proc will nearly cancel out the AP you get from the proc...or at least make it significantly less valuable than a static enchant with no downside.

Edit: Obviously I exaggerated in my initial post, it was still pretty good, but it wasn't nearly as good for warriors as for other melee classes using it. However, in 3.0.8, they're changing this to be only 5% armor reduction on proc. It's also worth noting that the AttT (and presumably the dk version as well) "pulse" is fairly long and it's entirely possible for it to miss the armor reduction entirely.

So in 3.0.8 this will be pretty much universally the best melee weapon enchant available.

Comentario de 103436

As a rogue I can see myself using this enchant for weapons during a boss fight, but for solo pve or pvp this is a suicide enchant.

Comentario de 109867

As has already been mentioned, the glow effect is almost the same as on Savagery (2H), i.e. a dripping blood effect, only the red glow on the weapon itself seems to be slightly stronger. It's the same glow as on Massacre (2H).

Comentario de 122037

To Exodist :

I dunno about you but i don't have a whole lot of armor, and 25% isn't a whole lot when calculating in the fact that....well we have a lot of damage mitigation and including resilience and dodge we really are only increasing other peoples damage by maybe 10% on the top side, i would use this religiously for pve and i would enchant my MH for pvp with this and then have my OH with something like http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=60707 , or even http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=44633 , the only time i would use Zerk x 2 is if i had enough damage mitigation to make it worth while...don't forget the mats are rather expensive as well, well at least they are on my server

Comentario de 25325

the real question is if you have this on both weapons as a fury warrior, will the second proc count the -25% armor of the first proc? if so then it is a loss of 100 AP (assuming the 12k armor model above), making this probably not the best enchant for an OH

Comentario de ExEvolution

Does anyone know the average uptime of this proc?

Comentario de 55560

I see a lot of people mentioning this has a ppm like Mongoose, etc, but that conflicts info from Elitist Jerks... here is the relevant info from the Ret Pally thread:

How berserking works: Berserking is NOT a ppm based proc (like mongoose), it is a chance on hit proc with a rough estimate of a 35% proc rate. This is important, because it means that not only can our specials (CS/DS/Judgement) trigger it, but it is also capable of refreshing its' duration (chain-procs), leading to some lucky uptimes (90sec uptime is within possibilities) . Napkin math shows that in a scenario with a 35% proc rate, the enchant is worth ~135AP on average, and up to/more than ~250AP if RNG favors you - in both normal and lucky cases, it is clearly the superior pve weapon enchant.

Comentario de 265063

In 3.0.8 the mats for Berserking (amoung several other enchants) are being changed to accommodate the under-used Dream Shards.

New mats are:

12 Infinite Dust
2 4 Greater Cosmic Essence
10 4 Dream Shards
10 Abyss Crystal

edit: mats changed again in build 9438

Comentario de 295642

Calculations based on a lvl 80 gnome rogue

Mongoose: + 120 agility and slightly increased attack speed on proc

+114 ap ( 19.38 dmg og 8.094 dps)
+1.32% crit
+240 armor (=1.17% extra dmg reduce)

Berserker: + 400 ap and -25% armor on proc (calculations made with 5137 armor)

+68 extra damage
+28.4 dps
+-1284.25 armor = -6.30% dmg reduction

Decide for yourself.
Correct me if i am wrong.

Comentario de sushibar

Will the AP bonus affect the other hand's melee weapon, or is it only for the one that's enchanted with it?

Comentario de 39022

Patch 3.0.8 will buff this enchant by reducing the amount of the armor penalty. No exact numbers are listed atm.

From the patch notes: "Reduced the armor penalty granted by the Berserking weapon enchantment."

Comentario de 115964

MMO-Champion lists that in patch 3.0.8:

* Enchant Weapon- Berserking now reduces your armor by 5%. (Down from 25%)

Source

Comentario de 255214

For the fury Warriors:
"Armored to the Teeth" doesnt seem to get affected from the -25% armor on proc.
This means that the proc gives us a pure 440ap (400 +10% from "Improved Berserker Stance").
2 Screen shots with and without the buff:
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nobuffxa2.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=withbuffxl0.jpg

I don't know if "its working as intended" or if its a bug, but for the moment that's the way it works.
Patch 3.0.3.9183

Comentario de andrwarrior

Are there any pictures available of the buff proccing? Please and thanks =)

*prays for a different buff from Crusader*

Comentario de 252534

I have a question and maybe some1 could help me ...is this enchant over mongoose or wich one is better? ^^ ( for rogues )

Comentario de 128231

Not sure if it's going live with the patch today, but on top of the mats changing, the Armor reduction is also being lowered from 25% to 5%. That makes this enchant far more palatable for PvP and Soloing.

Lol@people rating down correct information...

Comentario de 169125

In the patch 3.0.8, the armor reduced from the Berserking buff is been reduced from 25% to 5%.

Comentario de Daynov

Is it better than +110 AP/Mongoose for cat druids ?

Comentario de 168962

Since I am a warrior I'm considering either applying this to both of my weapons or having this on one and Massacre on the other.

As I understand it, Breserking is based on a ppm and there is no possible way to have the buff stack, instead it would refresh itself since the proc is based of any attack (Bloodthrist, Whirlwind, Slam, etc). Instead of having the buff just constantly refresh itself I was wondering if it would be worth the investment to have chance of 400 AP on a 3.4 speed weapon and a constant 110 AP on the other.

Comentario de 44090

Some data: in a 3 min 12 second kill of Patchwerk last night, this proc'ed 7 times.I had a total DPS time in the raid of 5329 seconds, and this enchant proc'ed 181 times. It is hard to gleen the PPM from this as it can chain proc/refresh/overwrite a proc, so this can't be said to be an approximately 50 % uptime as this would imply.

Comentario de 283857

Unpurge the OP if you can. Berserking has been proven to stack.

Also, Berserking MH/Berserking OH is the best enchant choice for TG warriors, according to a few EJ sheets.

Comentario de 322957

So is this better than mongoose for Enhancement Shaman? 400ap vs 120 agilityand 3 percent haste? Would the flat ap increase be better than 120 ap , increased crit and haste? Its seems to me that the crit and speed would be better but I haven't crunched the numbers. Discuss

Comentario de Rageberge

Confirmed that Berserking is proccing from Heroic Throw!

... well it should anyway, you're throwing your main hand weapon with Berserking on it, see?

Comentario de 260375

whats the proc rate?

Comentario de 326154

For a feral (cat) druid, how does this enchant compare to Massacre in terms of DPS?

Comentario de 111622

How often does this proc? I had dual mongoose on my Rogue and I remember the proc chance being extremely low, in PvP it occured once per 7 people I attacked. I'd take this for PvE, but for PvP I'll go with the steady constant rate of ensured Attack Power or Agility. Yes, 800 Attack Power is great to have, but it's rare to have also. If you want such procs, go with Trinkets (PvP i mean).

Comentario de 102865

They should rename the buff from the proc. It's "Berserk", but I'd love it renamed to "Berserking" instead.
Why, you ask? It messes up my SCT Custom event to show when it proccs, combined with the Berserk feral-toptalent. :(

Comentario de Alpzan

Does this enchant work for us Druid cats?
Since we are technically not using our weapon when attacking..

Comentario de 156159

is the dk weapon considered lvl 60+?

Comentario de 339360

yes but if we're talking about proc, it's a different matter . :)
basically. as stated above. it's the same as mongoose and executioner .(they just give different stats.)

the end.

Comentario de Sacri

I've been trying to figure this out...

With Berserking now at a -5% armor reduction. Would it be more beneficial for a Fury Warrior to Dual Wield Two 2h Weapons with Berserking rather then the One hand Berserk and Offhand Massacre?

I'd consult the post above but most of them are from when it proc'd and -50% reduction and i have no idea if Blizzard changed the spell to proc separate buffs or if it just has a higher chance to renew itself on both weapons...

Comentario de TheHolm

Classic question: Does it proc in druid forms?

Comentario de gengizkhan

any hunters tried this let me know pls!

Comentario de 339106

This works for hunters, but for MELEE only. So, unless you're that pro hunter in raids that rocks out 6k dps while meleeing, stick with something else.

Comentario de 269689

Seems nobody mentioned the proc has been changed.

Berserk
Attack Power increased by 400 but armor reduced by 5%.
15 seconds remaining

Comentario de 418590

what is the best choice for paladin retri?

berserking or massacre?

tks!

Comentario de 384418

I have a mut rogue and was lucky enough to pick up the Fleshshaper in H HoS last night. I already am using Namlak's in my OH w/ Mongoose. What do you think of the enchant combo of Berserking MH/Mongoose OH?

Comentario de Prfctdrk

A DK should never enchant his weapon. Ever. Runes do the duty perfectly without any outside help.

Comentario de darkwarrior42

Witchsong, you are not correct. Or rather, you are correct if you only consider auto attacks.

A weapon with a speed of 3.0 will have a percentage proc rate of 6%. Without any haste, you will get 20 auto attacks with this weapon in 1 minute, and each will have a 6% change to proc Berserking; on average, that is 1.2 procs per minutes.

Now consider a ret paladin who uses only Crusader strike and has no haste (impossible because of talents, but we'll leave that aside for the moment). Crusader strike has a 4 sec cooldown, so you can use it 15 times in a minute. That means our ret pally has now made 35 attacks in one minute, each of which has a 6% chance to proc Berserking; as such, our ret pally will actually proc berserking an average of 2.1 times per minute, for an average AP increase of 210 . This does NOT mean that the PPM of the enchantment is wrong, nor is my calculation incorrect because "it can only proc 1.2 times per minute". Rather, this is a simple illustration of the fact that the PPM system is not a limit on how often it can proc, but a way to prevent fast weapons from being better than slow weapons at proccing things like this.

Now consider a ret pally in a 25-man raid with a weapon of speed 3.50, with a proc rate of 7%. He has 20% melee haste through windfury, 3% haste through his aura, and let's give him 5% haste through gear (he's not overly fond of haste on his gear, but he wound up with some anyways). His modified weapon speed is 2.70 (rounded to to three significant digits), and he'll make ~22.248 auto attacks per minute. He'll use around 15 crusader strikes per minute, and 6 divine storms per minute. Assuming no procs from Judgement (I don't remember off-hand if judgements can proc Berserking in 3.2.0), that gives him 43.248 strikes per minute capable of procing berserking. That's an average of ~3.03 procs in a minute, for an average AP increase of 303.

Short version: Average AP bonus of this enchant gets better the more instant attacks you use capable of proccing berserking, and the more haste you have.

Comentario de Maxmass

some need to know that ,, the chance to work with Feral druids is not that good (not like other classes) since the speed without any haste is 1.00 in cat
i tried it for about 5 min and it worked only once
at first i thought its not working on druid until i had it after 3 min of dpsing
and also 2 other minutes and didnt have it again ..
i may be wrong ,, so give me your opinion

Comentario de 455730

For the price of the enchant I find the visual to it dissapointing. Beastslaying anyone?

Of course I'll still be getting it. But it doesn't mean I am happy :@

Comentario de 367067

Best enchant for ret pally's atm

Comentario de 309000

While I tank with my bear form and Swipe (bear) my targets during AOE situation, this effects stays up indefinitely.
Sure it eats 5% of my armor, but that reduces my physical reduction from 65% to 64%, I doubt any healer notices it, point is after all that I live.

And I live thanks to Savage Roar that boosts my survivability with higher AP.

Comentario de idkfaceroll

Is this a good Enchant for raiding as an enhancement shammy?

Comentario de 543031

Note that if you are dual wielding and have two Berserking procs, the armour loss will not be 10% (50% pre 3.0.8), but actually 9,75% (43,75% pre 3.0.8).

1 - (1 - 0,05) * (1 - 0,05) = 0,0975
1 - (1 - 0,25) * (1 - 0,25) = 0,4375

Comentario de 370864

Comparing it with Massacre
The question here is... IS 50 AP worth 5% armor?

For PvE the obvious answer is YES as you will rarely take hits. However for PvP my immediate answer would be NO because you'd be totally screwed if you get CCed when this procs, id rather stick to a solid 110AP.

Comentario de 485608

And

Assuming 15k armor, armor lost from the proc will be 3750. 3750/60 = 62.5 AP. so the proc will only be worth 337.5 bonus AP.

then

25.47 / 60 * ~~400~~ 337.5= ~~169.8~~ 143.3 AP per enchant.

means it's also better for fury warriors. I'm sure that's the only thing anyone who has scrolled down this far was trying to find out anyway as this is an absolute no brainer for all other mele classes.

edit:

as for Trueshot Aura, it should be obvious that 10% of 110 is only 11 and 143-110 is 33 and 33>11 but i figured I may as well add it in, just in case someone wanted to know...

I guess the bottom line is cost. Is it worth it to you to spend the extra money for 22 ap, per weapon that you put zerker on instead of massacre, after raid buffs (assuming you have a hunter)? was it worth the extra money to go with massacre instead of the next lower and wasn't the little bit more ap you got just as pathetic? is it not rediculously easy to get the mats now with the new enchanting roll system? (just say yes and get this one, not massacre)

and another edit:

this is all assuming, of course, that the people who posted above me were correct in saying the ppm is 1.698- they didn't cite where they got that info, however i'm assuming ej, tho tbh i didn't check... if it's actually 1.2, then the bottom line is this is exactly equal to massacre for everyone except warriors (and dk's but they shouldn't use it anyway) as long as they have trueshot aura on... I'm guessing the extra 0.498 comes from the procrate added by yellow damage- if you care that much go to ej and find out yourself, and downrate me, see if i care.

Comentario de 274988

Just threw this on my lvl 60 rogues daggers, On an old account with just Vanilla wow active on it and it doesnt seem to have hardly any uptime at all with both daggers enchanted. Was just curious if this was because it's got a nerfed uptime for lowbies, or if it's just cause im sitting at 4% hit. Thanks

Comentario de 274988

Does the level of the player effect the proc chance?

Comentario de 355194

If dual-wielding, one-handed or two-handed weapons, does this proc on 1 weapon and the other weapon procs too or just remains inactive?

Comentario de 466614

Testing in patch 3.3.5 + 4.0.1 Berserking has an internal CD of 60 seconds and a uptime of 15 seconds, Regardless of attacks used to proc it, Once procced its a 15 second buff duration and a 60 second CD, no matter what attacks you use after the 15 seconds has passed nothing can refresh its 60 second internal cool down.

As a paladin (giving that the 15 second duration and a 60 second CD) and 610 haste (24.18% increased weapon swing speed) 2h Massacre is the better enchant. Apon testing using auto attack only I was able to produce 27 attacks in 60 seconds, and 7 attacks in 15 seconds. Mathematically this worked out to:

27 x 110 = 2970 (Massacre), vs 7 x 400 = 2800 (Berserking).

This means the +110 attack power generated by massacre is superior to the attack power generated by berserking in the durations specified.

And for those cataclsm heads, using blessing of might which now gives 10% to attack power heres the maths:

110 + 10% = 121, 400 + 10% = 440
27 x 121 = 3267 (Massacre), vs 7 x 440 = 3080 (Berserking)

If you like simple maths:

15 x 400 = 6000 attack power, (Berserking). 60 x 110 = 6600 attack power, (Massacre).

Comentario de 308637

I may be crazy to have done it, but I enchanted my tanking weapon with this a couple weeks ago and have only seen posititve outcome from it.

I was using accuracy for hit/crit, but I'm over hit cap without that, and felt as though the other tank enchants were crappy.

I haven't seen much difference in loss of armour, and have upped my threat and added dps to raid.

granted, my gear is mostly 264 and my hp/armour are pretty OP for current normal raids, but I like having te extra boost in threat and think this is worth getting for tanks.

I have found that I can put a lot of dps gear on in 5 mans now and only plow through them faster.
I made a 5 man set with dps trinkets, libram, rings, and such while remaining def cap.

wowheros.com lowers your score becuase they consider it an unpropper enchant, if you care about that. But the GS addon doesn't pick up on enchants or gemming in game, so no issues there.

I guess I'd like to know if anyone else has used this for tanking, or might try it out with me to see if they like it too.

Thanks,

Comentario de 640592

As of patch 4.0.1., I lost one enchant on my axes with my fury warrior...:(

what does that mean? was there a mistake, or was it removed intentionally, maybe procs won't stack anymore...

Comentario de TheLifelessOne

Does anyone happen to have the exact proc rate of this effect?

Comentario de Alexianoryuu

Is this a per-weapon cooldown, or this is a full global cooldown on the Berserking status period?
If this is a per-weapon, then having one on each weapon should still be all right.
If it's a full global, then it seems I may need to look for a new potential enchantment, for when I get the weapons I'm looking at. If this is the case, any suggestions? Currently a Lv.70-capped Rogue. XD

Comentario de Sumona

Makes me wonder when it comes to Two-Handers, this? Or Massacre?

Berserking: 400 attack power for 15 seconds with a 1 proc per minute -5% armor

Massacre: 110 attack power (permanently active) no draw back.

So mainly this is for a CHANCE of burst (at the cost of armour), but yet over-all damage, Massacre would be better, right?

Comentario de Redclouds

I'm twinking my subtlety rogue at lvl 74. Which would be the best choice:

-Berserking
-Mongoose
-Exceptional Agility

Thanks in advance!

Comentario de ReplicaOfKzD

I was also interested in this enchant for a twink rogue (70 lvl).
And I had a choise between this one and Mongoose. I'm going to use it in PvP.
I have Sinister Calling (Sub) and Leather Specialization (rogue class).
So, from mongoose 120 agi proc I actually have +30% SC and +5% LS. If this stacks as 35% (not as 36.5%) I have 162 agility comparing to 400 AP.
As rogues benefit from agility more than from raw AP, I'd call mongoose superior to Berserkering for PvP Subtlety rogue at least. As for PvE I guess Berserkering will be better, concerning that you don't need def stats in PvE. As soon as this one gives -5% armor - proccing in a middle of a fight with a melee will become rather a reason for using save cd's that DPS-ing more/using dps cd's. I'd prefer 1% meelee haste and some crit/dodge from agi to 5% armor reduction and 70 raw AP.

Comentario de Maddhawk

This: Rabia needs to be here. The spell cast by this enchantments proc.

Comentario de Kefra

As of Patch 5.4, the attack power granted by this enchant scales with player level.

Up to level 60 = 150 Attack Power
Level 61 - 70 = 200 Attack Power
Level 71+ = 400 Attack Power

Therefore, as of this moment, Crusader (flat +100 Strength) outshines this enchant for Strength-based melee characters until Level 60.

Comentario de 927583

As of 6.0.2 this enchant provides 100 AP at level 90.

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Rabiar

Rabiar	Nivel 70

Hechizo de 2 seg

Herramientas:

Vara encantadora con runas

Componentes:

Polvo infinito (12), Esencia cósmica superior (4), Fragmento onírico (4), Cristal abisal (10)

Encanta de forma permanente un arma cuerpo a cuerpo para que a veces aumente tu poder de ataque 24 p., pero a costa de una reducción de armadura. No se puede aplicar a objetos de nivel superior a 320.

Vendedora: Vanessa Sellers
Zona: Bosque Canto de Cristal
Coste: 10

Componentes

	Polvo infinito (12)
	Esencia cósmica superior (4)
	Esencia cósmica superior (4)
	Esencia cósmica inferior (12)
	Esencia cósmica inferior (4)
	Fragmento onírico (4)
	Crear fragmento onírico (4)
	Fragmento onírico pequeño (12)
	Cristal abisal (10)

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Escuela

Física

Mecanica

n/d

Tipo de disipación

n/d

Categoría GCD

n/d

Costo

Ninguno

Rango

0 metros (Self)

Tiempo de lanzamiento

2 segundos

Reutilización

n/d

GCD

0 segundos

Efecto

Enchant Item: [Rabiar] (3789)
Multiplicador JcJ: 1

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No puede ser utilizado mientras se este cambiado de forma
No genera amenza

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