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Comentario de Karuko

As of patch 2.0.10, this is able to be used in Defensive Stance as well, making it very good for multi-mob tanking as well as against bosses. Furthermore, this appears to stack with the Icy Chill enchant for weapons.

Comentario de skywyze

Does this ability benefit from Attack Power? Can it crit?

Comentario de Dubbill

No and yes, respectively.

Comentario de Gimlyly

How much is "additional threat"?
Double?

Comentario de Dubbill

The threat is 175% of damage done.

Comentario de Rubinous

Yes it can crit but the crit chance is not your melee crit chance but your spell crit chance lol, so it crits very rarely.

Comentario de Malentra

This spell alllows warriors to be very effective in tanking multi-elite pulls without CC. Combining Thunderclap and tab-Sundering/Revenge, you can effectively hold up to 4 mobs with enough threat to counter healer aggro.

However unlike the paladin Consecrate + Holy Shield threat generation, without a substantial threat-lead, you probably won't be able stay ahead of mage/warlock AoE, aka. the fast-fun-and-famous Shattered Halls Prot Pally runs, where every elite pack is AoEd down instead of CC-ed and single targeted.

Comentario de doublediamond410

Generally more useful for tanking than solo'ing or PvP'ing.

Creates strong threat for ~~up to 4~~ all nearby targets, as well as dealing some damage and reducing your own damage taken.

Comentario de Daxos

From what I can tell, you do not need to have anything targeted to use thunder clap. My question is does thunder clap hit your current target and an additional three (total of four) or does it always just hit the closet four targets to you?

Comentario de Archangel

TC will hit;

If you have no target available or in range, it will hit the four closest mobs.

Comentario de hoosemenzatta

This skill is categorized as a spell even though its damage is mitigated by armor as its considered physical, lame.

Comentario de northguard

Anyone know what threat this wave blasts for at 70 with:
+100% dmg 3/3 improved clap
-10% dmg def stance

+15% threat 3/3 Defiance
+30% threat Defensive Stance bonus

123 base dmg (rank 7)
+42 spell damage (superior wizard oil).

Comentario de Lemonwizard

Thunderclap's great and all, but any warrior who goes for intellect or spell crit or puts wizard oil on his weapon is just being dumb.

The primary function of this move is the attack speed debuff and keeping non CCed mobs off healers. If your DPS are aoeing or going after different targets, tell them to learn the mechanics of the classes they're running with and focus fire. It can't stand up to mage/locks AOEing because it shouldn't need to.

Comentario de Scrotch

Warriors actually receive no spell crit from Intelligence no matter how much they have.

edit: I don't think TC gets any increased damage from spell damage either, as it causes physical damage. And to the best of my knowledge physical damage abilities are never modified by any type of spell damage that you can get.

The threat caused by TC thus is dependent on the amount of damage done by it (as mentioned above, TC causes threat equal to 175% of the damage done to the target), modified by whatever threat modifiers you have (stance, talents, enchants, etc.). It's probably (threat caused)=(damage done)x(175%)x(threat modifiers) but don't quote me on that.

Comentario de roguedubb

For a level 19 Warrior Twink with Improved Thunder Clap (Rank 3), this out performs Heroic Strike and even Improved Heroic Strike (Rank 3). And if you hit multiple targets with Thunder Clap you're laughing.

Thunder Clap

17 Rage
46 Damage
2.70 Damage per Rage
20% attack speed slow

Heroic Strike

12 Rage
32 Damage
2.66 Damage per Rage

Comentario de darknesslion

in the WOTLK expansion there will be this talent,so Thunder Clap can crits.

Incite (Protection)

Increases the critical strike chance of your Heroic Strike, Thunder Clap and Cleave abilities by 5%/10%/15%.
(3 Ranks)

Comentario de nathanbove

Does anybody happen to know what the attack power coefficient for this ability is? Even a 15% coefficient would make this attack quite potent when coupled with the Improved Thunderclap talent.

Comentario de Sord

It is currently base damage plus 20% of your atk pwr. Incite makes it crit even more and Improved Thunderclap increases damage plus reduces the rage it costs. People wanted an aoe Thunderclap affecting all targets, nevermind that when it's actually quality threat to 4 targets. I'll take that any day, the days of healers pulling off my abysmal Thunderclap is over.

Comentario de Kebabas

Stupid question: does this affect spellcasting speed? >.> or only ranged and melee?

Comentario de Ecwfrk

This ability causes additonal threat.

Does it add musical tones to threat or something?

Comentario de Bloodsword

This is now not limited by targets, in the aim of making all tanks more aoe viable.

Comentario de gregorthor

Thunder claps number of targets is going to be removed according to http://www.worldofraids.com/news/308.html. With this we will now be amazing at AoE and holding aggro on many targets will be a breeze. Thank you Blizz.

Comentario de Hyle

Just announced Blizzard intends to remove the target cap from Thunderclap and Swipe so now these skills can be used on more than 4 mobs.

Comentario de Hyle

Just announced Blizzard intends to remove the target cap from Thunderclap and Swipe so now these skills can be used on more than 4 mobs.

Comentario de jagarock

Thunder Clap Rank 2

20 Rage Instant 6 sec cooldown

Requires Battle Stance, Defensive Stance
Blasts nearby enemies increasing the time between their attacks by 10% for 14 sec and doing 34 damage to them. Damage increased by attack power. This ability causes additional threat.

IMPROVED will be:

Thunder Clap Rank 2

16 Rage Instant 6 sec cooldown

Requires Battle Stance, Defensive Stance
Blasts nearby enemies increasing the time between their attacks by 10% for 14 sec and doing 68 damage to them. Damage increased by attack power. This ability causes additional threat.

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it scales with AP, heroic strike doesnt scale with AP.
so this will be much more damage for the rage yes.

Comentario de hypehuman

As of right now (since all of this is subject to change), you get get 30% more damage for 60% less rage in a 25% increased radius (which comes to a 56.25% increase in area). These benefits are conferred by Improved Thunder Clap, Focused Rage, Glyph of Resonating Power, and Glyph of Thunder Clap.

Comentario de tobarstep

The coefficient is 12% of your AP and has been for several builds now. I'm not sure that the 20% ever even made it in.

Comentario de Dralas

Finally thunderclap is getting a good buff! Since strength is going to be very plentiful in prot. tanking gear and the new armored to the teeth ability, prot warriors AP will get a nice increase for those damage dealing abilities where its is based on our AP also. So overall a prot warrior may be hitting mobs for about 500 ( A complete guess) with thunderclap.

Comentario de sinaraine

as of wotlk its modified by attack power... my thunder clap does about 500 now..

Comentario de moenbase

It doesn't just hit 4 units as it was before. In fact it hits the area around you and everyone in it.
"Blasts nearby enemies."
Excellent for tanking multiple annoying mobs like in Shadow Labs and Arcatraz. Sheep? Who needs a sheep if you can tank them all.

Comentario de hoosemenzatta

I dont know if no one noticed or just didnt mention it, but this has a 6 seconds cool down now, up from 4.

Comentario de Eluneril

With 3.02, this can now hit unlimited targets.

Comentario de hoosemenzatta

Does anyone know the exact range and AP conversion on this ability? Its easy to judge range in battle, but an exact number would be useful. And dmg caused varies by armor, so much harder to make a good guess, I think its 10% or less.

Comentario de gamemaster

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr who cares about your habitat little beast i am gonna kill i am the storm grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr LOL

Comentario de frankster

How does the "extra threat" on thunderclap work out?

is it 175% of the damage, which is then modified by the defensive stance (207%)? i.e. roughly 3.5* the damage done?

edit: I found the answer on tankspot: (http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f200/39775-wow-3-0-threat-values.html) the threat is 185% of damage done, modified by defensive stance (207%) which works out as 383% of damage done overall. Pretty beefy!

Comentario de Sejicow

Demo shout only costs 10 rage, so use that spell if you only need to lower target damage.

Comentario de jaizehait

Yeah, back in 'ole TBC when you were type cast into only being able to go to certain raids because they needed you to take hateful strikes or to AoE tank. The good old days.

One thing I have noticed recently, and I'm not sure if its just me, but my thunderclap no longer applies a debuff image, so i wonder if that -10% debuff still applies itself. Time to go for a test I suppose... *hunts for victims*

Comentario de Matzai

Thunder Clap benefits 1 dmg for every (5 STR =) 10 AP. at least on my lvl 23 Warrior. That makes it:
Thunder Clap: Damage + 0.1*AP = total damage

Comentario de Kiliana

Thunder Clap is a waste of mana.

Comentario de Fearghail

The resource is rage. Are you just trolling? Thunder clap is a versatile talent that has uses for Arms, Fury and Protection warriors in pve and pvp.

Comentario de Amarantin

Just because nobody mentioned it:
Thunderclap is blocked by silence effects. Remember about that when you encounter mobs with that ability. This can really cause some nasty problems. Especially when you realize that silence turn shouts off to.

Comentario de stereopump

This spell will cause much less threat as you approach level 38, when the next rank is granted. If you're wondering why at level 37 you can't keep aggro when at 35 you were fine, that's the cause.

Comentario de sillybuns

: This ability now counts as a ranged attack, granting it double damage on critical strikes instead of 150% and ranged miss chance, and still cannot be dodged or parried.

Hurray, finally, a positive change for our beloved thunder-based aoe. Meaning it should miss less on bosses, and more damage on crits, should be a reasonable boost to our threat capabilities.

3.3.3 patch notes.

Comentario de silkfire

Even if this ability belongs to the Physical school, you still cannot cast it while Silenced. It should actually be a Physical + Nature spell (the so called Naturestrike damage school, hex value 0x9)

The Physical portion is when the Warrior slams his weapon into the ground.
The Nature portion is the percussion wave that radiates from the impact of the weapon.

At least enable the physical portion during a silence, like an instant Overpower (extra attack).

Comentario de Kiliana

Thunder Clap is a waste of mana.

Comentario de Orthis

Let's see how different ability can get...

Improved Thunder Clap
Glyph of Resonating Power
Glyph of Thunder Clap
~~Focused Rage~~

And you get:

------------------------Level 85
912 Rage
Requires Battle stance, Defensive Stance

Blasts enemies within 10 yards increasing the
time between their attacks by 20% for 10 sec
and doing 217 damage to them. Damage
increased by attack power.

Comentario de mmaniac

So, this talent gives you the ability to refresh the cooldown of rend on your current target and add a Thunder Clap debuff, right?
Imagine duelling a rogue or druid... You could maintain the rend on them all the time (if you had managed to hit them once with it... regarding the great avoidance of theirs)

Comentario de HyperDiper

ur the best

Comentario de DrakeWurrum

Does this also increase casting time?

Comentario de Hinura

when I look at this spell in game it just says:
Causes damage to all enemies in the area, and slows their attack speed.
does anyone know how I can make it show me the area range and the damage dealt ? I have looked through the interface options but I cant find it anywhere...

Comentario de healzforealz

I never understood why a thunderCLAP is a stomp...

Comentario de Hinura

does anyone know what other spells share this effect ?

Comentario de Katalo

Thunder Clap can proc Crusader, however I believe it will only proc Crusader on your mainhanded weapon.

Comentario de bromalferdon

Possibly, if one is looking for such, a reference to a type of firework produced by Gandalf in preparation for Bilbo and Frodo's birthday celebration. It is also a town in Stephen King's The Dark Tower series; however, considering he has cited The Lord of the Rings as a source of inspiration for these books, it may also be traced back to Gandalf's explosives.

I think it's more likely than I had initially imagined; considering how many references to Tolkien's work exist in the game.

Comentario de drgnslyr

Sorry but.. the new patch says within 0 yards.. does that mean you have to be standing on your opponent?

Comentario de WyvernVJ

New buffs and debuffs map (5.0b)

Buffs

Stats
Effect: +5% Strength, Agility, and Intellect
Brought by: Any Druida (), any monk (), and any Paladín ().

Stamina
Effect: +10% Stamina
Brought by: Any Sacerdote (Palabra de poder: entereza), any Brujo (), and any Guerrero ().

Attack Power
Effect: +10% melee and ranged attack power
Example: Battle Shout
Brought by: Any Caballero de la Muerte (Cuerno de invierno), any Cazador (), and any Guerrero (Grito de batalla).

Spell Power
Effect: +10% spell power
Brought by: Any Mago (Intelecto Arcano), any Chamán (), and any Brujo ().

Haste
Effect: +10% melee and ranged haste
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Caballero de la Muertes, any Pícaro (), and Enhancement Chamáns.

Spell Haste
Effect: +5% spell haste
Brought by: Balance Druidas (), Shadow Sacerdote (), and Elemental Chamáns.

Critical Strike
Effect: +5% ranged, melee, and spell critical chance
Brought by: Guardian and Feral Druidas (), any Cazador (), and any Mago.

Mastery
Effect: +5 mastery
Brought by: Windwalker monks (), any Paladín (), and any Chamán ().

Debuffs

Weakened Armor
Effect: -12% armor
Brought by: Any Druida (), any Pícaro (Toque místico), and any Guerrero ().

Physical Vulnerability
Effect: +4% physical damage taken
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Caballero de la Muertes ( and ), Retribution Paladíns (), and Arms and Fury Guerreros ().

Magic Vulnerability
Effect: +8% spell damage taken
Brought by: Any Pícaro (), and any Brujo (Marca del caos).

Weakened Blows
Effect: -10% physical damage done.
Brought by: Blood Caballero de la Muertes (), Feral and Guardian Druidas (Vapulear and Vapulear), Brewmaster monks, Protection or Retribution Paladíns (Martillo del honrado), and any Guerrero (Atronar) (basically any tank).

Slow Casting
Effect: -30% casting speed
Brought by: Any Caballero de la Muerte (Golpe necrótico), any Pícaro (), and any Brujo ().

Mortal Wounds
Effect: -25% healing received
Brought by: Arms or Fury Guerreros (Golpe mortal and Tajo furioso), any Pícaro (Veneno hiriente), and any Cazador ().

Will update as new info comes.

Comentario de SgtFrog

Fun Fact: A Pandaren Warrior (male Pandaren, anyway. I don't know about female Pandaren) using Thunder Clap doesn't stomp the ground...with his foot. He does a butt-stomp.

Comentario de xXzCodProxXz

Now, this ability is rather useless and is a waste of rage unless in protection spec
No longer does it slow enemy movement speed by 33%, and decreases their attack speed.

we see a rather generic debuff, these "weakened blows"

like 10% will do anything. I reckon Blizzard got tired of classes being unique and decided to homogenize buffs and debuffs. Smart move, easier gameplay=more subscriptions, more $$ , and make classes retard-proof

Comentario de Oexi

Does ANYONE remember if this used to have a lower level requirement? I am trying to figure out when I first started playing WoW, but all I remember from it was when on my level 10 or so warrior (first toon) one day I logged in and EVERYTHING WAS DIFFERENT. And if I remember correctly I had recently learned this skill (yes it was back when you actually talked to the class trainer to learn skills) but when I logged in that one day it was gone from my action bar. And being the casual-player noob that I was I didn't have a clue of what was going on. Now this was probably 2009 or 2010 so I'm thinking perhaps cata release?
Thanks in advance.

Comentario de Bogdanov89

At some point during MoPandaria (or even Cataclysm), Thunder Clap was changed to do Physical damage instead of Nature damage (it always scaled with attack power) - meaning that heavily armored foes will now take a lot less damage from TC due to their physical damage reduction.

As lvl50 Prot warrior, my Thunder Clap hits dummies/critters for the exact tooltip damage (~550) while on instance mobs of my level it does about 280 damage, due to their armor reducing TC's physical damage.

Comentario de heartlessnobody

Thunder Clap
Instant 6 sec cooldown
Requires Warrior (Protection)
Requires level 14
Blasts all enemies within 8 yards for (50% of Attack power) damage

Thunderstruck
rooting them for 1 sec and reducing their movement speed by 20% for 10 sec

and reduces their movement speed by 20% for 10 sec.

Generates 5 Rage.

tank only now would arms want this back?

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Golpea a todos los enemigos en un radio de 8 m, inflige (50% of Attack power) p. de daño y reduce su velocidad de movimiento un 20% durante 10 sec.

Genera 5 p. de ira.