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Comentario de UkeRocket

Recently on the PTR changed:

Big Bang: Inflicts 107250 to 112750 Physical damage to nearby enemies. (Up from 97500 to 102500 damage).

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Does anyone else fail to see the point and think that's kinda funny? Dead horse isn't dead enough yet, IMO.

Comentario de Nulgar

Since it says 'enemies' in the plural, maybe that damage is the total damage? Divide the max number by 25, you get 4150, not really that much, and that's before armor. Since the assumed 10man version has lesser numbers (why would you create two spells with different numbers if both are meant to insta-kill?) but a higher per-person damage (8063) we can also speculate that, especially in 25man, not everyone will be hit by that spell - maybe linked to this phasing stuff (then again, the triggered spell is called "Remove Player from Phase")

I guess we'll have to wait for 3.1 and the first guilds to beat his prequest to find out, doesn't look like we'll see him or Yoggy on the PTR.

Comentario de nivst

Reading the spell description of this one, and the others supposedly cast by him makes it seem like it's split between the raid.
4290-4510 damage to each member doesn't sound that scary.

Comentario de 203804

my theory is that it's either an interruptable spell which he casts from time to time (8 sec cast is easy to interrupt - maybe ads or his CC powers will trouble players when he casts that?) or that's a 8 sec enrage timer when he gets to 5% for example.

Comentario de 236163

It's very unlikely that this can be interrupted. If a spell takes this long to cast, it's because you need to avoid it, not interrupt it - otherwise they would've made it more challenging and reduced the casting time by a lot.
This cannot be the Beserk timed ability, because these things are meant to wipe out the whole raid in mere seconds. Even Patchwerk's Beserk ability is instant - why would this guy give us 8 more seconds?

Comentario de 349060

I am going to take a stab in the dark here. I agree with what the previous person said about the Phase Punch. This will almost certainly kill anyone who is not a well geared tank. My guess is all the dps and healers have to purposly eat a phase punch and time it so they are send to another plane right at this cast goes off. Maybe there you have to kill an add before you come back, or are just stuck there for x time waiting on the bang to pop you back. But it makes sense that you would have to keep a least one geared tank around through the explosion to keep him in check for the split seconds while your raid comes back.

As for the damage increase, maybe blizzard found that plated dps was surviving the punch, or just wanted to gear check the tanks more.

Comentario de 114299

Somewhat reminds me of Zeromus' Big Bang attack from FFIV. That move hit everyone like a ton of bricks too, could potentially kill some of the less "tanky" characters in the party if you were underlevelled. Heaven forbid if he cast it two or three times in a row.

Heh, I'll let you interpret what that means for this fight.

Comentario de AssassinZer0

Perhaps the black holes he creates play a part in this as well. Maybe you need to use the black holes to shift (similar to OS) planes and avoid the big bang (similar to avoiding waves in OS + drakes). Also, perhaps his phase punch will shift you into the same realm as going into the black holes, again trying to avoid the big bang. I haven't seen the encounter even attempted yet, but this sounds most logical in my messed up brain ^_^.

Comentario de 349060

I don't think the key lies in black hole explosion. There is an achievement to destroy X amount of blackholes within 10 seconds or so of eachother. Likly the explosion is either a move they cast or happens upon their death. In either case you must be able to outrange it. Most likely the explosion is to prevent people from aoeing the black holes down.

Comentario de 191298

IMO the phase punch means you need to bring two tanks, and when one leaves the other taunts etc. And the black holes are like Grand Widow's adds, and delay the cast time of Big bang.

Comentario de 110092

My bet would be, that since it has long casting-time, it will be THE spell and kill everything near caster. So melee needs to run away in order to survive and maybe ranged-dps needs to watch their threat while tank is not tanking.

Comentario de 355353

i just took a look @ the phase punch spell..
it deals arcane damage, not physical dmg, so clothies would survive it and fade into the other phase
the secondary effect of this spell here removes phase shifts.
so most likely you have to take the phase punch and shift the phase in order to get dragged out of it again
by this spell without dying in cause of its primary effect. (1 sec delay between prim. and sec. effect.)

my bet.

edit: phase punch is a 5 yard range ability, so ranged might have to run towards the boss in order to take the punch (maybe ae?)
and when the buff expires u get another buff (Phase Punch) so you maybe have to get the phase punch at a minimum of
45 seconds (duration of the phase punch fading buff) before the big bang and at a maximum of 55 secounds before it (10 second duration of the shift)

so i think this is a coordination element of the fight.
you mess this up? you die!

just speculation thou...

Comentario de 238292

my money's on Big bang being a "group up to split damage" ability, and it will be followed by Black Hole Explosion, which will be a "get away from everyone else" effect, like XT-002's dark bomb

Comentario de holymoses

With the 45 second buff duration on phase punch, it could be either a permanent immobilize, or there's a way to phase yourself back in; possibly using black holes/big bang. After reading some of the comments on the other spells, it seems people will need to group in a black hole to phase out when big bang is being cast to avoid taking the damage, then I would assume Black Hole Explosion gets cast and everyone needs to move out of said black hole very quickly.

Comentario de 84397_

Things I have learned from the latest video:

He summons collapsing stars at the beginning of the fight. Killing a collapsing star (or being near it when it explodes, its health ticks down) will phase you out, which most likely negates the damage of the Big Bang, which will then de-phase you.

Notice the 8-second cast time - just enough time to kill a star and get phased. However, attacking dark matter mobs while phased spells insta-death, so you will probably be running like mad while phased.

Black holes are left where the stars collapse (physics, anyone?). They stay in normal existence and will probably deal damage only when you stand in the black pools or when he explodes them via instant cast - so you will want to get rid of them.

Comentario de 88716

If this guy says "Behold, the beginning of time!" while casting I'm going to applaud Blizzard for a Tales of Vesperia reference.

Though this does sound like an interesting ability, it will be interesting to see how well raids can adapt and avoid this attack.

Comentario de 301983

Wait a minute,this skill we dont know if it's spell or ability what about if death knights in the group use Anti magic zone?

Comentario de Prohealer

Maybe you have to LoS it like the mage boss in Occulus.

Comentario de 234080

Yet again, pallys can survive even from a Big Bang.

Mindblowing wouldn't you say?

Comentario de shrayp

I would like to point out Effect #2 as is listed in the spell details:

Trigger Spell
Remove Player from Phase

This most likely infers that the most if not all of the raid will have to get into the phased-state somehow in order to avoid/reduce the damage from this ability. They will not have to worry about getting out of the phase though, because it seems to do it for them.

This, however, raises the question of how many phase opportunities will there be for the raid between each Big Bang, and how well can DPS be expected to do their job in the ~7 second window they will have from the end of one Big Bang and the panic time when he is about halfway through casting the other one.

Comentario de 234475

Could also be like Sapphiron's fight where you hide from the blast behind something. Or it COULD just lead to the next phase. My last possibility is where some people are moved to a place like when fighting the drakes in Obsidian Sanctum where everyone but two take a portal.

Edit: I though of another one which was listed above which is where you have to preform a special task to prevent it.

Comentario de 341869

Algalon recieves loot: Universe

Comentario de Bareno

Turns out, he does it pretty much every minute or so, and in order to avoid it you have to jump in an black hole (Which spawns after destroying an collapseing star), and avoid dark matter till the cast is over, than you get shoved out back into the real world.

Comentario de Jokar

BIG BANG ATTACK!

Comentario de 26301

Big Bang CAN be Vanished.

Comentario de Frawki

Damn, Algalon must've created kinda many universes. xD

Comentario de 540888

Inflicts 107250 to 112750 Physical damage to nearby enemies.

Radius: 50000 yards

Nearby has gotten ALOT closer than i remember

Comentario de 426224

Estauns interius ira vehemente...

Comentario de 798716

One of the battlemages at the base camp: Hey guys do you think the brave adventurers will be able to defeat algalon ?

Another battlemage: Ill check the boss fight! *checking*

The battlemage who checked it: Hey guys did you know Algalon has a spell called big bang that deals 107250 to 112750 damage to everyone 50,000yard radius?

The first battlemage: W00T?

Next second : The whole basecamp is dead.

Comentario de 718482

Probably able to survive this now, at least a tank class. Oh.

This is the reason for the Big Bang Theory, darn you Algalon!

Comentario de seahen

They should've called this Big Crunch or something. It's not the beginning, it's the end!

Comentario de 940869

WHAT THE FU

Comentario de 1205711

Get a priest to give you Creationism, and you will survive this no problem.

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Big Bang

Big Bang

Hechizo de 8 seg	3 seg de reutilización

Inflige 0 p. de daño físico a los enemigos cercanos.

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Duración

n/d

Escuela

Física

Mecanica

n/d

Tipo de disipación

n/d

Categoría GCD

n/d

Costo

Ninguno

Rango

0 metros (Self)

Tiempo de lanzamiento

8 segundos

Reutilización

3 segundos

GCD

0 segundos

Efecto #1

School Damage (Física)
Valor: 445
Radio: 50000 metros
Multiplicador JcJ: 1

Efecto #2

Trigger Spell

	Elimina al jugador de la fase

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Big Bang

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