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Comentario de 7999

I find this to be a good technique to use, only during the first few 10, 20, or 30 levels of the warrior. However, after you grow in levels, and mobs grow in health, the damage it deals is very minimal, and almost seems to have little to no effect.

Comentario de 10086

Great for keeping rogues from re-stealthing, since it lasts longer then deep wounds and rend's damage has increased.

Comentario de AzraDark

Nice tip, find a skeleton or ghost type that is immune to rend, charge it, and keep using rend on it. It's immune to the damage, but you keep getting rage, but you can quickly max out your weapon skill.

Comentario de 34222

I've found that defensive stance and sunder/revenge has worked best because you don't really do ANY damage but this might be even better because there's no cooldown

Comentario de butters

Completely wrong topic, but the way I build up weapon skill is I go to a lowbie place like WC or RFK and just kill mobs in there while spamming hamstring. Since the mobs are such low level you'll be critting like crazy therefore giving you insane rage. The Global cooldown keeps you from getting low rage.

Comentario de Hirotoro

What a junk ability. As previous poster said, great for keeping rogues out. But i just use deep wounds. Use this as additional (hardly) damage if you consider it a feasible use of your precious rage.

Comentario de 40798

Rend is also useful for activating Blood Frenzy, which would increase all melee damage done to the target by 4%.

Comentario de 55033

This attack is only good if you are an Arms specced warrior in 2/2 Blood Frenzy for the 4% bonus to melee damage. Helps with a group's all over melee dps.

Comentario de Wildhorn

182 damage plus an additional 5% of your weapon's average damage

If you want it simplified

Comentario de Xamibon

Well.. If you have a low crit i guess rend is ok..
I use a 33/28 build with 35% crit in battlestance.. Never bother to use rend (or forgets to do so).. The damage from rend is minimal. It can be good in pvp for that little ekstra dottage.. But for PvE I would rather use my rage on something better ^^

Comentario de Fugazi

Biggest disadvantage of this skill is that it cannot be used in berserker stance. Because of that it is quite useless in raid.

It is good skill for leveling with 2h as it makes sure that Blood Frenzy is up all the time and prevents "1% mob and waiting 3 sec for next swing" situations ;)

Comentario de JyL1

Simply does not scale well.
Even with a high end weapon, you're only adding, what, 50, 75 damage over 21 seconds?

That's nothing.

Comentario de ptg2000

Except for Dwarf Rouges that can stone skin out of bleed effects.

Comentario de Marrd

Well, let's see, if you just normally rend something without talents using the baseline of 182 damage over 21 s, it would tick for 26 damage...

If you got the talents, it would tick for 75% more or roughly 45.5 damage every 3 seconds or 318.5 total. Throwing in a druid mangle brings this bad boy up to a whopping 414.1 damage or 59.2 per tick!

Wow, I think they need to tone this down some.

Comentario de JyL1

I would never use this in a raid, zerker stance or otherwise. Waste of a debuff slot. Much rather have another raid member put up a beefier DoT or debuff, wouldn't want to risk bumping off one theirs to place my puny 200 damage DoT.

Comentario de Bojo

Well, sometimes you just have like 80 rage and blood rage ready, I mean then it's just free damage. Not for raiders maybe, but with improved rend and blood frenzy it can be pretty helpful in solo PvE and PvP. Remember when your enemies survive with 1%hp? Rend could be good, It's instant and so on, as I said, if you have uselessly much rage, It's just some free damage.

Blah blah blah.

Comentario de 40551

Agreed .. I wouldn't use this in groups, and otherwise would only use it if I had excess rage. As others have pointed out, there are just better things you can spend your rage on.

Comentario de 39142

I found this skill completely useless as both an Arms warrior And a Fury warrior. If I wanted to keep druids and rogues from restealthing, I have deep wounds for that. The skill also does not scale well

Comentario de 40551

You can't count on Deep Wounds, though, as it only procs when you crit. Additionally, it only lasts 12 seconds, as opposed to Rend's 21 seconds. I think a Warrior can spare 10 Rage every 21 seconds to ensure that their stealthing foe doesn't get another opening move.

Comentario de 90829

BUT IF I USE MY MOUSE TO TURN HOW DO I CLICK ON REND?

Use it to keep a rogue from stealthing or someone from CCing you and bandaging. That's about the extent of its usefulness.

I don't know if mangle affects this, but even if it did it'd still be lackluster.

Comentario de chillyman

The fact that it keeps people from bandaging / restealthing is what makes this killer ability so good. Some noobs may not understand it and are quite possibly lured to believe this ability is useless because it doesn't deliver any "real" damage. Those people need to L2P, simply put.

Comentario de Hirotoro

I'm axe spec, so my high crit rate (just about 40%) procs deep wounds enough, even against targets with high resilience. I've hardly felt the need to drop the all-important berserker stance simply to rend.

Comentario de chillyman

Not everyone fights in berserk stance though. There are times when you need to use a balanced stance to reduced the extra dmg recieved in zerker mode. specially when you are up against a hard hitting foe. The only real reason to be in zerk stance when you have that amount of crit already, would be when u need extra rage and to be honest that should not even be an issue for most warriors anyway. I'm not factoring in fear classes here tho. But if you already have an excessive amount of crit rating then what good is 3% more if you would most certainly be landing crits every third hit anyway?

Like it's been said already, this is a tactical ability rather than another dmg over time skill. Warriors aren't warlocks.

Comentario de 90829

Not to mention rend lasts longer than deep wounds.

Comentario de Hirotoro

Because any extra % crit helps counter enemies with excessive resilience rating. I tend not to use zerker stance for the 3% to crit, but rather because whirlwind, being an instant damage attack, scales tremendously with weapon damage and is a core part of my dps cycle. plus, you never know if someone's gonna sneak up on you and sap/gouge/fear you :)

Comentario de 113330

Absolutely the best, most useful, most blatantly overpowered ability in the entire game for leveling your weapon skill.

Comentario de Vorara

Defensive stance; Use Revenge whenever it's ready, spam Rend when it's not. You'll be taking and doing 10% less damage and only using 5/10 rage pr instant attack. There's no better way about it, simply :)

Comentario de moonasha

Rend is also useful for leaving someone a present right before they kill you.

Comentario de BagOfChips

Contributing to the wrong topic...

I find the easiest way to level up your weapon skill is on the Servent of Alijistar or something in the Blasted lands, south of Nethergarde keep. They hit for around 20, and do not die. They turn into a ghost at about 3% and just stand there.

Here's the mob: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=7670

Comentario de 47175

Yes mangle does affect rend, and yes its still lackluster unfortunately.

Comentario de 11715

yet, intercept is one of the most important habilities in PvP...

Comentario de 132793

lol guys, Rend is useful for keeping a dot on a foe. Most useful for keeping rogues and cat druids from stealthing. It doesn't need to do a lot of damage. That's what Deep Wounds are for.

Comentario de 120506

If you could use it in berserker stance, it would be VIABLE, i guess. If you can't use WW, BT, Execute, don't need to refresh your Rampage or reapply battleshout, and have excess threat and more than 2 seconds of leeway in your attack rotation--sure. Pop in a rend. It can't possibly hurt you in that very unlikely situation.

God, this is about as useful as a sentry totem.
Now, I'm being too kind; Rend is about as useful as the Master Conjurer talent.

Seriously. I haven't used this since lvl 8, when i realized that heroic strike was a better rage sink than this piece of crap ability.

Comentario de Bozack

I acctually use Rend in PvP combat, just right before the enemy health drops to 20% ( where Execute is available).
Theres even time I kill player with Rend when they try to ran away from combat.

Comentario de 100627

I use rend when I switch to Arms to use Overpower. After I refreshed Rend, thunder clap and overpower I simply go back to berserker stance. I need to stay in berserker stance to counter most fear effects. If I ever see the enemy dodges again then its time to use overpower :)

Comentario de 161777

i suggest using rend on druid s in bear form,prot wars and pally s for obvious reasons and no there is nothing as efective for 10 rage in thet situation

Comentario de 138937

This skill while minimal ads to your total DPS, in regards to that consider how much faster you can attack if you queue up a HS or maybe even cleave(god save me), and then use this every interval to reset the attack timer for your HS. Complimented with MS/BT and at times hamstring when OP is off or WW/TC maybe. I've had its fair share of value observed in PvE is all im saying.

Comentario de 160706

===>>>Rend (Rank 10): 300 damage over 15 seconds, additional based on weapon damage. "If the target becomes enraged, Rend causes four times the normal damage".
<-- from wrath of the lich king wiki. dunno if they will implement it for real but it looks like they're setting the duration cap at 15 seconds.

this means more damage per tick. 60 (untalented). and if you pop in a taunt or challenging shout (enraged?) it will do 1200 damage over 15 seconds (untalented) for 240 damage a tick.

add improved rend to this equation and you will have a lot of blood in your hands...

i certainly hope they implement it coz i like using this ability for kicks while pve-ing.

Comentario de Runnin

Warrior dots ftw!!! This combined with bloodbath ( WOTLK warr bleed ), deep wounds, and improved rend/truama could possibly add up to some serious Dps especially since a couple classes are getting enrages- like feral druids ( Bleeds ignore their 20k armor 0.o ) and assassination rogues.... on a sidenote don't you love watching rogues vanishing and sprinting away only for your deep wound to kill them? XD...im not good at theorycrafting and we don't know how those bleeds will stack with AP at lv80 and how they will affect the inevitable HP increase at the level also so we will have to wait and see.

Comentario de 24594

I've just done some counting, and with a Troll Butcherer 1514AP (lower end, ap from Troll Butcherer counted in to that) you're looking at a 1260 dmg rend(rank 10), -before- enrage.(with imp. rend, Blood Frenzy and Trauma)
5040 dmg when enraged.

That equals 84 dmg per tick when not enraged, not too much to hang in the tree.
But the 336 dmg per tick when enraged, completely ignoring armor, is another story.

Couple what with Blood Bath for another 90 dmg per tick(enraged,15 sec), and Deep Wounds for 53 dmg per tick(12 sec), it becomes quite a nasty amount of bleed dmg on pretty much anyone.

A grand total of 7026 dmg done over the course of 15 sec, I'm all game for that.
It would be even more if they change back imp. rend to affect Bloodbath, since that would bring Bloodbath up to 157 dmg per tick.

Comentario de Musluk

Who would have thought rend getting actual practical use?

Now, it just needs to be usable in zerker stance...

Comentario de Fugazi

Old Rend vs New Rend

I took my S3/S4 warrior and with following ubuffed stats: 1700 AP, 483 avg. weapon damage.

Old Rend:
Damage: 230 over 21 sec / 403 with 3/3 Imp. Rend
DPS: 11.0 / 19.2
Damage per rage: 23 / 40

New Rend:
Damage: 457 over 15 sec / 686 with 2/2 Bloodletting
DPS: 30.5 / 45.7
Damage per rage: 46 / 69

As you can see without talents new rend do almost x3 better DPS and also x2 more damage per rage. With talents it does x2.5 DPS and over x1.5 damage per rage compared to old.

Of course as nobody is using Imp. Rend now the real comparision should be untalented old Rend vs new talented Rend - in that case new Rend do over x4 more DPS (x16 more if target Enrage) and x3 more damage per rage (x12 if target Enrage). Quite buff isn't?

Actually new rend with new talents have better damage per rage than MS and it will be IWIN skill for bosses and mobs that like to enrage. Now the only thing it lacks is that it does not work in Berserker stance.

Comentario de 101346

The buff to this ability makes it get 6 times more of your Weapon Damage, making it scale MUCH better, but the base damage is still pretty pathetic

Comentario de 132457

At lvl 80 this ability will probably hit for 1k dmg, 4k enraged. Couple this with improved Rend (+50% dmg) and you got yourself a very effective DoT against other warriors, hunters, druids, rogues, and shammans.

Beta confirms?

Comentario de annerajb

they will not loger give weapon skills when 3.0 is released.

Comentario de 224850

i love it
combined with imp rend,and trauma
this will do uber damage

not to mention makes battle stance a must when fighting other warriors, to apply 4 times damage when they enrage

Comentario de RagnellBB

My Warrior has roughly 1800 ap and I have 2/2 Imp. Rend and 2/2 Trauma, as well as 2/2 Blood Frenzy. On the level 70 training dummies it can tick for above 500. I was bging later and rend was ticking on a prot war for 310ish. I have not extensively tested this, but rend is definitely much, much better than what it used to be.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, my average weapon damage is 457.

Comentario de chillyman

When a rogue comes along and pokes you in the eye with his improved gouge just to stealth upon your ass, you'll wish you'd had this piece of crap ability on your action bar.

Comentario de Dimish

This is seariously the only spell you get for dinging 71.... I'm dissapointed :<

Comentario de 228334

Okay, here to comment on this improved version of Rend.

The formula for calculating Rend's damage consists of 3 parts.
This is the total damage that will be done without any talents:

1) (Main Hand Weapon's Lowest Damage + Main Hand Weapon's Highest Damage) / 2
+
2) Attack Power / 14 * Main Hand Weapon's Attack Speed
+
3) Base Damage of Rend

To know how much each tick will do, simply take the total damage and divide it by 5. (5 Ticks in total)

To sum it up, part 1 and 2 is your main hand's average damage (weapon and attack power).

So as seen from above, if you have two weapons of the same DPS, use the slower one to maximise the damage from part 1 and 2 of the formula.

Oh, and it ignores armor.

Hope it helps!

Comentario de kattib

But if I use mah mouse to turn how will I click Rend?

Comentario de sky3union

made a warr alt yesterday and using a two-hander i was quite surprised with the new version of rend (restarted WoW pretty recently after i quited before BC came out...that's like 2 years ago? :P)

when fighting multiple mobs, having rend on each mob cuts down their hp drastically while you finish off the main target

one question though,
does rend scale by the weapon on your currently-wielding main hand or does it scale by the weapon when the rend was used?
curious because i'm planning to lvl up with prot build, mostly sword and board, just for fun you know
if it's the latter, i guess another macro will be on my spell bar

thanks in advance

Comentario de 252237

The true power of rend, IMO, is not Rend, but it's effect on Overpower with talents. Get Taste for Blood, Improved Overpower, and Unrelenting Assault, Improved Rend, and Trauma. Then, setup the following macro to replace your default rend...

/cast Rend; Rend

Bind that to an easy to access key, then when you have more than one mob your fighting, you can hover over nearby targets and rend them. Then have fun while when you have 3+ targets, you get overpower almost every GCD, and it crits about 75% (with weak gear and no buffs) of the time, kicking in deep wounds like crazy. If used correctly, Rend is now a fun and powerful DPS tool.

If you wanna do even better, bind the above macro to another easy to use key, and replace rend with overpower. Then, you can overpower and rend targets that aren't your main target, getting the benefit of Trauma on them as well (remember, reliable crits with overpower means reliable Trauma).

Rend used to suck, those days are gone. Even the Glyph of Rending, which seems like a weak one if just thinking about it's base effect, is quite good all things considered.

Rend uses main weapon damage, so get a very slow 2H, you're gonna want that anyways for Slam/Overpower/Whirlwind/Cleave. If you ask me, unless DPS is very different, the weapon speed is by far your most important weapon stat.

Also, by using low rage moves like Rend and Overpower more frequently, you will have no rage problems, allowing you to cleave more often, which is always a good thing :).

Edit - One extra note, Rend does higher damage against targets with >90% health, so don't get too excited by the rend damage you do on training dummies. If attacking 2 training dummies, Rend can show up as your #1 damage dealer, but it's not likely to be the case in real combat. Still, it's a very respectable DoT just with it's non-Overpowered damage contribution.

Comentario de 250546

BUT IF I USE MY MOUSE TO TURN HOW DO I CLICK ON REND? <3 donald

Comentario de 261582

try this ability with http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37659 absolutely beautiful.

Comentario de 102674

Just to avoid commentary on all the rend ranks, the damage bonus when the target is above 75% health applies to all ranks of the spell, not just the higher ones

Comentario de Thander

No, Blizzard specifically said they were only adding the effects to the new ranks. The main reason is to preserve balance for previous content where some of the new effects might trivialize it.

Comentario de 102674

If you actually use rend though, there's a noticeable difference between damage when you cast it on a target above 75% and a target below 75%. It's technically a bug. If you don't believe me, test it out for yourself.

Comentario de 261847

Nice dps and stay-outisde-stealth-rogue tool in PvP. In BGs, you can rend all ppl you see. Don't need to kill him, just apply rend and watch him to bleed and get a debuff. Other melees will love it.

Comentario de darknesscalls

But if I use my mouse to move, how do I click Rend?

Comentario de 159390

See: http://www.darklegacycomics.com/archive.html

Good ol' Donald :)

Comentario de iMogwai

It's useful with the Taste for Blood talent too.

Comentario de Arcisal

Rend = Warchief Rend Blackhand
Maim = Maim Blackhand

Comentario de lovechia

causing them to bleed for 380 damage plus an additional (based on weapon damage) over 15 sec.

Question: 380 damage instantly and then the DOT or just a DOT?

Comentario de 220228

Found rend by mouse, you owe me an internet WoWhead.

Comentario de 153007

Now that I found it, can I have another internet!

Comentario de 445445

At the risk of ruining the joke, the source is http://www.darklegacycomics.com/107.html.

Comentario de lutzj

I have a srs issue with this ability.

I was dpsing in an instance the other day and I had to turn and press Rend at the same time. "No problem," I thought, "I'll use my keyboard and my mouse at the same time like a pro." So I was holding down my A key while clicking Rend... but then Heroic Strike and Overpower lit up at the same time! I quickly moved my mouse over to Overpower and then clicked Heroic Strike since it's off the GCD, but that left me with almost no time to click on Rend! And, because I was so stressed out from clicking my key abilities, I had held down the A key for too long and was facing away from the mobs!

The only possible fix (which I hope is implemented in Cataclysm) is to make Rend proc on attacks so I don't have to click it any more.

Comentario de 493392

Funny story about rend. Back when I was still a noob I trained the arms talent that improves rend (first talent available). I hovered over rend and it still said rank 1. Next level I did it again. Still rank 1. So I go to all the trainers in darnassus and unlearn my talnets, put them back in over and over again... Didn't figure it out for a while...

Comentario de 619547

hehe i h8 rend ;D

Comentario de sorsa

Rend on PTR 4.0.1:

- Deals 1 tick of periodic damage instantly upon application.
- Ticks are now capable of critting (no set bonus or talents or glyphs needed).

Comentario de Orthis

Rend deals damage instantly when you apply rend.
EditL In cata.

Comentario de 358770

Roflmao. Also reminds me of the fact that anyone of about 2 1/2 m or higher will have to wait at least a second before feeling a stone fall on his toes. true story, blunt pain travels at 2m a second.

Comentario de Orthis

Rend can crit.

Comentario de Stormpage

It has now instant dmg portion which is fixed value.

My question is can it proc deep wounds in cataclysm mechanics ?

Comentario de Baracuda

In MoP they'll remove this wowhead page and no one new will see the funny rend + turning jokes :(

Comentario de YushinoPheles

Rend is officially making a comeback for Warriors (arms only) in Warlords of Draenor patch 6.0 :)

Comentario de pizzamike64

Yes it is coming back. But 18 seconds to get your burst? None of my fights last that long except for a boss fight. I wish there was a talent to shorten that time.

Comentario de OleMarYUlberg

It's back! And all we had to sacrifice was HeroicStrike, Slam, Cleave and Overpower.
And in case things gets to complicated for you guys:
/castsequence reset=80 MortalStrike, Rend

Comentario de doomlove

Enhanced Rend can not proc from multistrikes.
Talent Taste for Blood does not proc from multistrikes, nor can it proc from Enhanced Rend.
However, Rend can make multistrikes, and so can Enhanced Rend.
Rend is not affected by haste.
Taste for Blood can not crit.

You can refresh Rend when debuff have less than 5 sec left, and still get the final burst dmg.

There is currently no way to apply Rend to more than 1 target in one blow. However you can have Rend running on as many targets as you have time to apply it to, before the first one runs out.

Rend ticks 7 times. however if you refresh before it runs out(about between 0.1sec and 4.9sec left) you get 1 bonus tick, for the full duration of your extended Rend. Don't know if it's a bug.
If you let Rend run out every second time, before refresh you should get a free tick every second time you refresh. You have to refresh immediately after last tick though, for it to be effective, and since that is not easy and may mess up some other stuff, it could be better to just refresh within the last 5 sec.

One of the 7 ticks is the final burst. If you refresh within the last 5sec, that burst is applied immediately, the other ticks left, is added to the next rend.

Comentario de Baracuda

Anyone else finds this quite worthless in Legion? It's my favorite choice from a design point of view but it's just so weak and uninspired.

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