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Comentario de 11715

Elemental Overload affecting Lava Burst and going over 20% based on Mastery Rating? Sign me in! :)

Comentario de 464789

Too bad it's not ALL spells as they originally said it would.

I would love to see two flame shocks, or two instant frost shocks on my targets :D

Still, this new Overload seems to scale HUGELY with mastery.

I think our new power lies fully in haste and mastery.

Comentario de mak484

I have broken down all of the current masteries into two categories: unique, interesting masteries and flat bonus masteries.

Unique, interesting masteries:

Flat bonus masteries:

Why this mastery is interesting
Read the comments above. This mastery is a re-tooling of an old talent that used to only affect lightning bolt.

Comentario de cmilla

with current t10 set bonuses, having an extra lava burst proc could greatly reduce how often we have to flame shock. which is good because we are going to have to earth shock with the new talent changes. dont worry though, our rotation should still be real simple :)

note: good thing HP is getting increased dramatically because anyone getting hit by back to back lava bursts are gonna be in for a world of hurt lol

Comentario de 193698

Just an interesting thought: if we could get total 50 points of mastery, the chance to proc overload would be 100%.
Wouldn't that mean that if I casted one lava burst, that would proc another lavaburst and so on, to the infinity?

Of course the damage would go down 25% per proc, but I would love to see this :D

(Yes, it's impossible, but still interesting thought imo)

Comentario de vicariousink

Here is some rough numbers for you all:

23.5 Rating of Mastery (The ones you see on the gear) = 1.00 Mastery Point. Each point of mastery is an extra 2% to Elemental Overload.

Currently, I am sitting at: 17.65 (8.00 + 9.65) and that is 35% chance for the proc. I can tell you that even though it says 35%, I am seeing this WAY more than that on average. I would say every other Lava Burst I throw out, it procs.

Just thought I would let you all know.

Comentario de 687692

If you cast a lava burst/lightning bolt/chain lightning and switch targets mid cast, the mastery proc will hit your new target.

P.S Elemental shamans are OP

Comentario de cipher333

So according to EJ, at level 85, if you could somehow muster up 7520 mastery rating, the proc rate on this will be 100%. Anyone know much mastery one could actually feasibly acquire at lvl 85?

Comentario de 160546

ATM, I have a 31% chance to proc mastery, not very good gear, and tend to kill anything in PvE gear in about 2-3 GCD's. Earlier in Wintergrasp I was taking on continuous allies, literally killing waves of them, 2 at a time, for minutes on end until they all grouped up on me. As haxzor said,

You cant improve perfection

Comentario de 421771

just a note that people forgot here, you start out with 16% and 8 mastery (as mastery makes it go up, from tool tip). So to find how much mastery for a 100% chance you take of base then calculate.
I.E. 100-16=84 and 84/2=42 which means that you need 42 mastery to reach a 100% chance.
note: untested in truth, however that's what the tool tip says. I haven't played shaman shammies enough to get to test this, however you can expect me to be quest grinding mine to fully test it.

Comentario de Lrdx

For reference, here is a list of standard -> overload spells:
Descarga de relámpagos -> Descarga de relámpagos
Ráfaga de lava -> Ráfaga de lava
Cadena de relámpagos -> Cadena de relámpagos

Comentario de Silbotronic

Cadena de relámpagos + this proc = Most badass thing I've ever seen in WoW.

Comentario de guywhoscool

I think the smart thing to do would to keep mastery at around 30ish points when you reforge because that way you'll have it more often than not and you could also keep your haste and int.

Comentario de 323258

I kinda miss the old overload, for those who did not know, the old overload used to be able to proc off the proc, meaning you can get 2 overloads (technically more but I have never seen triple, probability is probably too low). There used to be a shaman add-on that tracks this with windfury as well, and it was awesome seeing things like "Chain Lightning DOUBLE Overload" and u seem like raid boss unleashing some crazy aoe zapping.

Although seeing how OP that would be, it is still glorious when u bask in the light of double overloads =p

Comentario de umansia

There is a talent, Lava Flows, which buffs lava burst's critical damage bonus by %24. i think it doesn't effect second lava burst from mastery. So, second lava burst doesn't hit %75 of first one. it's damage change between %55 and %70. But i never saw that it hitted %75 of first one.

Comentario de guatafu

Elemental Overload causes a Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, or Lava Burst spell you cast to trigger a second, similar spell.

Have not tested it myself but from wording it seems it cannot proc from a proc.

Comentario de 631719

I have gone into a Mastery spec for PvP and at 34% chance to proc, I often see triple Chain Lightning procs on the dummies so it definitely is possible to proc from a proc. When you factor in the probability though you will see it happens somewhat rarely. I am unsure if I have ever consciously noticed a triple proc on a Lightning Bolt or Lava Burst but I'm sure it's possible.

Comentario de Antox

Just noticed while leveling my alt shaman that mastery scales really fast on 80-83. Reforged all my gear into mastery and had 88% chance for elemental overload on lvl 81.

Comentario de 796242

With shaman T13 4 set bonus I think people might start stacking mastery. Assuming it procs enough to keep the +750 haste(+250 haste stacked 3 times) stacked throughout a fight.

Then again it could be designed not to work like that. Writing this comment after looking at T13 a few days before 4.3 release and not looked into it at all.

Comentario de 935449

Short version: The above comment is wrong. Lightning Bolt (LB) and Lava Burst (LvB) overloads hit the target of the original cast. Chain Lightning (CL) picks targets randomly. Additional explanation: I've tested this quite extensively with training dummies; while my tests suggest that the statement is wrong, there is nonetheless a peculiarity in the targeting behaviour of overloads. In my tests, the overloads of single-target spells (LB and LvB) always hit the targets they were supposed to hit, i.e. the targets at which the original spells were aimed. However, CL overloads behave

Maybe CL's proc is independend on each of the hits instead of only the primary target, IE the target it was cast on.
That would explain why the procced CL appears to randomly hit another target.

Comentario de Ordayc

In an official post (Blue-Tracker link), Ghostcrawler clarified how Elemental Overload works with Cadena de relámpagos. According to him, Elemental Overload has a chance to trigger per target, not per cast. That means if three targets are hit by CL, your chance to get an overload will be roughly as high as displayed. However, if you hit fewer than three targets, your actual overload proc chance is lower, while against five targets (with Glifo de Cadena de relámpagos) you can actually increase the likelihood of an overload above the shown figure.

The exact formula to determine the probability of an overload for a spell is 1 − (1 − c/m)^k, where m is the maximum number of targets hit by a spell (without any glyphs; i.e. 1 for single-target spells, 3 for Chain Lightning), k is the actual number of targets hit and c is the base chance to trigger.

The following table shows the actual chance to trigger an overload for all affected spells for a varying number of targets hit and three different base trigger chances.

Spell	# of targets hit (k)	Formula	Actual chance to overload
	(with c = 25%)	(with c = 50%)	(with c = 75%)
Lightning Bolt, Lava Burst	1	1 − (1 − c/1)^1	25%	50%	75%
Chain Lightning	1	1 − (1 − c/3)^1	8%	17%	25%
Chain Lightning	2	1 − (1 − c/3)^2	16%	31%	44%
Chain Lightning	3	1 − (1 − c/3)^3	23%	42%	58%
Chain Lightning	4	1 − (1 − c/3)^4	29%	52%	68%
Chain Lightning	5	1 − (1 − c/3)^5	35%	60%	76%

Comentario de pauladin

One of the three Shaman mastery talent specializations:

Elemental: Mastery: Elemental Overload (Damage)
Enchancement: Mastery: Enhanced Elements (Damage)
Restoration: Mastery: Deep Healing (Healer)

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Sobrecarga elemental

Sobrecarga elemental

Otorga un 16% de probabilidad de que ocurra una Sobrecarga elemental. Sobrecarga elemental provoca que una Descarga de relámpagos, una Cadena de relámpagos o una Ráfaga de lava que lances active un segundo hechizo similar sobre el mismo objetivo sin coste extra que inflige un 75% del daño normal y no genere amenaza. Cada punto de maestría aumenta la probabilidad de que ocurra una Descarga elemental un 2% extra.

Detalles de hechizos

Duración

n/d

Escuela

Física

Mecanica

n/d

Tipo de disipación

n/d

Categoría GCD

n/d

Costo

Ninguno

Rango

0 metros (Self)

Tiempo de lanzamiento

Instante

Reutilización

n/d

GCD

0 segundos

Posibilidades de activación de aura

100%

Efecto #1

Apply Aura: [Dummy] (18)
Valor: 1 (Mod. SP : 2)
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Acción del lado del servidor
Hechizos affectados:

	Ráfaga de lava

Efecto #2

Apply Aura: [Dummy]
Valor: 201
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Acción del lado del servidor

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El Tiempo de Lanzamiento esta oculto
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