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Comentario de Batusai1973

Si eres un encantador que consigue diariamente puntos de honor o justicia, no tienes que gastarte 3750 puntos para que, por ejemplo en el caso de la Alianza, te venda Talric Franco (puntos de justicia) o Edlan Halsing (puntos de honor) un cristal de la vorágine. Usa 700 puntos para comprar una reliquia, una varita, arma arrojadiza o similar, y al desencantarlo saldrá 1 cristal de la vorágine (incluso dos si eres de hermandad 23 ó superior, por lo de Bolsas a rebosar).

Mirad qué puede ofreceros a vuestro encantador General caballero T'Maire Sydes para la Alianza, por ejemplo, y probad.

Comentario de 1014184

Hola tengo la version 4.0.6, aqui no encuentro a Edlan Halsing, y si desencanto las armas de sanguinario tampoco me da el cristal.. Alguien sabe como conseguir el cristal en esta version?

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Comentario de tmptfate

This is the new epic crystal for the Enchanting profession. It is the Cataclysm equivalent of Cristal abisal and will be used with Enchanting 450+ skills.

Comentario de Mondorium

It goes together with these Enchanting 450+ materials introduced in Cataclysm:

By the way:
Greater Celestial Essence
The icon looks like an alien with eyestalks giving you the finger.

Comentario de Neokolzia

Primely coming from Baradin Hold Runs still I think, my guild has a decent amount of content down but we aren`t close to DE`n stuff yet, kinda sucks for people who want all the decent enchants.

Comentario de 459399

Eventually when the next raid tier comes out, these will go down. It's just a different way for Blizz to release the best enchants but make it difficult for you to obtain them, like epic gems. They're there if you *really* want them, but you probably shouldn't get them until you're farming hard modes or until 4.1/4.2.

Comentario de 641409

another way to get crystals:

if you don't care about pvp items and reach the cap of 1250 conquest points each week (may be higher for you) you can buy one of the epics that cost 1250 conquest points (ring etc) and then disenchant that. If your server has a good sell price thats 2k each week, which isn't much but its nice "pocket money".

Comentario de 751009

mats on my server cost about 700g, currently selling these for 1600g. ridiculous profits!

Comentario de Cellon

At such prices for mats, these enchants better have an awesome glow!

Comentario de 67829

I'm quoting this because it is useful information and it is getting downrated for no reason other than greed.

"From the looks of things, right now, the best way to get Maelstrom Crystal is in theory to find someone who has Alchemy and Enchanting on 1 char then get them to craft Lifebound Alchemist Stone"

Comentario de Expendable458

If your an alchemist and enchanter on your character you can make the epic trinket then disenchant it.

Comentario de 765709

Can you get these by d/e epic items from faction items?

Comentario de cheesemonster

No. Or at least, not the Guardians of Hyjal stuff. I couldn't be arsed to check the rest but I'd be surprised if they blocked it for one faction and not the rest.

Comentario de 759848

Cristal de La Vorágine really costs a lot ! 1-2k g in genjuros ah . yay for being alchemist-enchanter

Comentario de Oeconomia

Unfortunately, there are now at least 2 tailoring recipes that apparently also DE into this crystal, if wowhead's DE table is to be believed.

There are four...
Flame-Ascended Pantaloons
Dreamless Belt
Belt of the Depths
Breeches of Mended Nighmares

If your an alchemist and enchanter on your character you can make the epic trinket then disenchant it.

As of yesterday, January 18th, this source of Maelstrom Crystals is no longer available.
The Lifebound Alchemist Stone can no longer be dis-enchanted.

Comentario de xsherbearx

Confirmed on Cataclysm Hotfixes Blog. Under Professions in January 7th - 18th Hotfixes.

Lifebound Alchemist Stones can no longer be disenchanted.

Jumped up to 3-4k on Archimonde's Horde AH last night

Comentario de Diwtay

Lifebound Alchemist Stone can no longer be DE'ed to get a Maelstorm Crystal

Comentario de tcaruth

now that alchy stones are no longer d/e-able, i've found engineering helms to be the cheapest way to obtain these on my server. i can craft the helm for around 1.2k and sell it for 3k

even less if you have mining on an alt and can farm the ore/volatiles

Comentario de 465890

How to get Maelstrom's by DE, cheapest way:

PvP gear not hard to get, a few arenas + daily BG's should give 1-2 crystals a week, for a few hours work. Drops in BH aswell.

DE engineering helm, seems the least expensive epic to make for DE.

Buy Relics for 700VP each.

Note:
All above are soulbound and you must be an enchanter to DE :)

Comentario de 664443

6x Handful of Obsidium Bolts = 4 Obsidium Bars on average = 20-30g

6x Eletrified Ether = 4,8 Volatile Air on average = 95-120g

2x Ocean Sapphire or Dream Emerald = about 40-50g

3x Hardened Elementium Bar = 30 Elementium Bars + 12 Volatile Earth = 150-180g + 120-180g = 270-360g

1x Truegold = 700-800g. Maybe 600g, if you get the materials very very cheap and find someone who's transmuting nearly for free. But I prefer buying it for 700g, because it takes too much time.

= 1125-1360g on my realm
Leather wearers pay a little bit less, because they only need 2 Hardened Elementium. Plate wearers pay a little bit more, because they need Inferno Rubys instead of Dream Emerald or Ocean Sapphire. But it's still a profitable way, to get rid of Chaos Orbs.

First of all, you'll need Chaos Orbs. Running heroics only for Chaos Orbs is not very profitable. There will be other people, who roll on the orbs. You can get more money per hour, if you farm something else. It's just a good way to get rid of Chaos Orbs under special circumstances.

This leads to the second point. You have to be an engineer AND an enchanter. If you don't have any of this professions, you'll need about 15-20 Chaos Orbs to pay the costs for changing your professions. And this will take some time. I know some people, who are already an engineer and have >10 orbs on the bank. For them it would be a nice option.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Gryphon##DELIM##

Comentario de 360879

Maelstrom Crystals at the current state make Enchanting even less attractive for profit making, than before. Few enchants I have made using these I sold with a loss, so be careful.

Comentario de 618815

Once the valor point items are converted to justice points in the next content patch, you'll probably see a steady stream of these from enchanters DEing the 700 point relics (assuming they remain at 700 points when converted to justice points, if not, well......too bad I guess)

Edit: ZA/ZG drop epics in the next patch, so there will be a good supply of maelstorms then.

Comentario de Alfa

Too bad we cant have a enchanter DE them in the Not for Trade tab in the trade window, or id be making the engineering helmets ;p

Comentario de 174339

BLIZZARD...You have created an UNBALANCED economy!

Enchanters are now to oil rich countries--Only they can make the Maelstrom Crystals and All higher level enchants require them.
The Price is out of control!

Comentario de AzureShadow42

Until 4.1, that is, when they are DEable from ZG/ZA drops and the price plummets to 100g each or something obscene like that.

Comentario de Jevay

Come patch 4.1, Cristal de La Vorágine can be bought with honor and justice points from their respective vendors.

Comentario de 147863

As of March 26 (PTR build 4.1.0.13793) these cost 3750 Justice Points from or for 3750 Honor Points from . Both NPCs are located in Stormwind in the SI:7 area.

Comentario de bluesoda

The prices of end-game enchants will plummet as well as these when 4.1 comes out, since every enchanter can now afford to buy Maelstroms, either with jp or from the auction house. Better start diversifying so you can still rake in profits if you rely on enchanting as your only source of income.

EDIT: replaced vendor with auction house, because... well I just repeated myself.

Why downrate? What I said was true

Comentario de 811440

CANNOT UNSEE!

rofl what a great find though, i've never noticed that even though i've dealth with them for a while.

Comentario de xlordt

These go for 1 - 2k on my server (shadowsong), but I think I rather wait for the price drop.. I don't think its worth the gold.

Comentario de Delaios

If the prices for the current Valor Point rewards aren´t modified when they can be bought with Justice Points in 4.2, you´ll be able to "buy" these crystals for 1250 Justice Points by buying the BoE wrists and having those disenchanted.
You'll also be able to cash in on the Bountiful Bags guild perk for extra crystals. Assuming the guild perk has a 15% chance to proc another crystal, you can buy 3.45 times more crystals per Justice Point when 4.2 hits.

Enchanters themselves can buy the 700 ~~Valor~~ Justice Point relics and disenchant those, giving them a 6.2 times more crystals per Justice Point in 4.2 with the guild perk.

Comentario de Peso

Patch 1.1 - Patch 7.0.3

Cristal nexo
Cristal de vacío
Cristal abisal
Cristal de La Vorágine

Each item level represents the expansion in which the item was used.

Comentario de 355194

Thanks to the new Za/Zg instances, I can get anywhere between 2 to 3 crystals a run if I'm lucky, but its annoying when people kick you from a group cause you needed the crystal, last I checked, everyone needs those crystals for their enchants.

Comentario de Captinawsome

In the upcoming patch 4.3 blizz is adding: Enchanting: Maelstrom Shatter.
Splits a Maelstrom Crystal into two Heavenly Shards.

Comentario de ViceVersa

In patch 4.3 these can be shatter via Fragmento vorágine yielding 2 Fragmento celestial.

This will help raise the price of the heavily saturated market of Cristal de La Vorágine from Zul'Aman and Zul'Gurub and lower the price of Fragmento celestial.

Comentario de groupon

After patch 4.3 can be split into two Fragmento celestial by enchanters

Comentario de mysticol

I would have to say the easiest way to obtain these for a caster enchanter (myself) would be to buy the current wands listed from Honor Points vendor and Justice Points vendor, which are:

Scorchvine Wand 700 JP
Trail of Embers 700 JP
Ruthless Gladiator's Baton of Light 700 HP
Ruthless Gladiator's Touch of Defeat 700 HP

Do keep in mind, in order to purchase the PvP wands... you must have already obtained 7,250 honor points for the season. About 2-3 PvP BG victories should be able to net you a crystal, possible one TB can as well with the quest.

Comentario de Cypzik

Easiest ways I've found in 4.3

Run Random BG-s. You're going to get your achievments, honorable kills for Title and skill.
700 honor points= epic wand. Buy it. DE it for 1-2 Maelstrom Crystals.
If you're more of a PvE type then It's going to take longer to get 700 Honor Points, but you can get your wands the same way.

Or If you're a multiboxer= Run ZA/ZG for easy Maelstroms.
With the current state in BG-s on my server (Tarren Mill) I'm getting about 1-2 (depends on the luck) an hour.

Comentario de paladinnr1

From the servers i've checked (Auchindoun, Talnivarr and Jaedenar) on horde side the prices has been jumping around between 120g- 190g.

So, if you're selling them, save them until they're at like 175g :D.
It will be a good profit in the end, belive me.

Comentario de 956374

I've found that queueing for random Hour of Twighlights as Tank and as an Enchanter yields lots of these. Instant pops in queue (if not i rarely wait more than 5 min) and all of the boss drops with d/e into one or more Crystals. I ran them last night while i was gearing my tank and cleaned out my bags this afternoon to find i had 9 of these puppies. Safe to say i think in 2-3 hours of randoms youll have 5 or more. Not to mention these dungeons are easy as hell and really fast to run. I think if you're a Enchanter and a Tank this is your best bet.

Comentario de dreezyman

3-4 BG wins an hour can yield 2-6 Maelstrom crystal from disenchanting wands (700 Honor EA). Let's say you bought two, that's 400-1200(@200 EA) gold an hour from farming battlegrounds. Not only are you capable of making that much gold, but earning Honorable Kills while you're doing it. Go PvP!

Comentario de 940502

New Enchanting materials in Mists of Pandaria:
*items will show as 'not found' until www.wowhead.com/cata comes up. Names are accurate though.

Hypnotic Dust -> Spirit Dust
Lesser Celestial Essence -> Lesser Mysterious Essence
Greater Celestial Essence -> Greater Mysterious Essence
Small Heavenly Shard -> Small Ethereal Shard
Heavenly Shard -> Ethereal Shard
Maelstrom Crystal -> Sha Crystal

Comentario de MitchTJones

On the Firetree server, the price of these swings wildly... One day it was 400G for 1, the next day I got 20 for 50G. This is perfect for spectating (buying when the price is low, then selling it again when the price gets higher)

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